Thanks for subject change, Esther. :)

On 7/25/12, josh gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
> I emailed accessibility, I'll probably get the same thing back, but
> you're right, not initially accessible at all.
>
> On 7/25/12, Nicolai Svendsen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I pointed this out in an earlier message about upgrading to Mountain
>> Lion.
>>
>> If you hit enter, VoiceOVer speaks the current date but I haven't found a
>> way to accessibly change it. I'd guess that it's a widget which makes use
>> of
>> a canvas element or another visual element to change the date, but the
>> arrow
>> keys don't actively seem to do anything. In a lot of cases, the mouse is
>> the
>> only way to use these kinds of elements. My guess is that you can use
>> Mouse
>> keys, but I'm not very proficient at them and I find them pretty slow as
>> they only seem to move by pixel. I've done this without VoiceOVer on, and
>> I
>> just tried this with VoiceOver on as well and it works.
>>
>> Essentially, what VoiceOver does not pick up is that it is a table
>> imbedded
>> within a widget such as a canvas, which contains the various dates. You
>> have
>> to click on them to change the date. If you use the "Speak text under
>> mouse
>> after delay" checkbox in VoiceOver Utility/Verbosity/Announcements tab,
>> you
>> can use the mouse to quite accessibly move your finger over the various
>> columns and click to change it. VoiceOver will announce the change, but
>> be
>> sure to hit enter first when the date text has focus or VoiceOver seems
>> to
>> remain quiet. I also recommend that if you use this approach, set the
>> delay
>> slider to 0% so that it is 0 seconds.
>>
>> Obviously, it's important that you ensure the mouse has focus with VO-F5.
>> The element normally does obtain focus as expected, but if not, hit
>> VO-Command-F5 and start moving around to try to find the date you want.
>>
>> Again, Apple should have designed this with accessibility in mind, but it
>> has not it would seem. I'm sorry if this sounds like a very crazy
>> approach,
>> but it seems to be the only one in this instance. Mouse keys seem to move
>> by
>> pixels, and this is fine except it would take a very long time to get
>> between the various columns.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nicolai
>> On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:31 AM, josh gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Right, I get that. But when attempting to type into this field,
>>> voiceover wouldn't do it.
>>>
>>> On 7/25/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hello Josh, Tim, and Others,
>>>>
>>>> I've changed the subject line because you are talking about the program
>>>> for
>>>> getting a free upgrade to Mountain Lion if you purchased either a new
>>>> Mac
>>>> from Apple or a qualifying reseller between June 11 and July 25, 2012,
>>>> or
>>>> a
>>>> refurbished Mac from Apple between those dates.  This program also
>>>> applies
>>>> to new Macs that you buy from qualifying resellers after today, but
>>>> which
>>>> come with Lion installed.  The program is called "Up-to-Date", and you
>>>> have
>>>> to file a request with Apple through their web form either by August
>>>> 24,
>>>> 2012 (in the case of purchases before today), or within 30 days of your
>>>> purchase date (in the case of new Macs purchased after today, but which
>>>> have
>>>> Lion loaded as the operating system).
>>>>
>>>> The way this works is that after your purchase is verified you get a
>>>> coupon
>>>> code to apply for your purchase of Mountain Lion through the Mac App
>>>> Store,
>>>> but I've heard there have been some problems with some of these codes
>>>> not
>>>> working in the massive startup today.
>>>>
>>>> For more information, check the web page explaining the Up-to-Date
>>>> program:
>>>> http://www.apple.com/osx/uptodate/
>>>>
>>>> Josh, the date text field is supposed to refer to the date of your
>>>> purchase,
>>>> so they can check for eligibility.  I think this is probably easiest if
>>>> you
>>>> purchased from an Apple Store or through their online store, because
>>>> they
>>>> can immediately match the records to verify your transaction.
>>>>
>>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Esther
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:53 AM, josh gregory wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My mom had to help me do it, the field for the date just said date
>>>>> text And I don't think it'd let you complete it without it. I emailed
>>>>> Apple about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/25/12, Timothy J. Meloy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I think you have to fill out a form for the free mountain lion
>>>>>> upgrade.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> believe it is on Apple's website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:30 PM, josh gregory <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's different about it? Sorry don't mean to sound rude at all but
>>>>>>> I'm still waiting for apple to email me with the link or whatever it
>>>>>>> is to get it free, since I got my mac a month ago.
>>>>>>>
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