Hi Phil

Actually, looking back at that demo I'm a little embarrassed about it because, 
although I did the demo, it was done kind of ad-lib, and as you'll have heard I 
got a couple of surprises myself along the way.  But keep in mind that that 
particular demo was done using a very very early version of Fusion, before most 
Mac users had even heard of the product as I was working with VMWare on their 
private betas at the time and, therefore, I was able to have a lot of input 
regarding accessibility.  The interface has changed and I wouldn't be so 
arrogant as to claim the credit.  However, when I first started looking at the 
product, Fusion was only slightly better in terms of accessibility than 
Parallels Desktop was, (and still is).  I had several long conversations at the 
time with VMWare's development team and by the finish of it all, Fusion was 
almost 100% accessible.  That, I am pleased to say, has not changed.

I got a lot of feedback from that demo and almost all of it was positive.  In 
fact, I was told that in several cases that demo persuaded people to launch 
themselves into the Mac fraternity and, as a result, many of those people are 
now hard and fast Mac enthusiasts and I know quite a few of them personally who 
have now even ditched Windows completely.

Regarding your comments on spreadsheets, there is another, possibly more 
accessible, product on the market than Apple's own and many use it in 
preference to Numbers.  It's called "Tables", and it will allow you to import 
Microsoft spreadsheets I believe, although I am not entirely sure whether 
they've yet enabled the use of Office 2010 or 2013 spreadsheets.  Anyway, 
before I forget, you might want to give it a spin.  you can find the 
developer's website along with download links to try it for yourself here:
<http://www.x-tables.eu/more/overview.html>

I doubt that it would take you long to learn and I think you'll agree that it 
is accessible.  Once again, thanks for the congratulations on the demo, 
although I personally cannot stand to listen to it now, as when I recorded that 
I had a nasal condition and my voice sounds utterly horrible, even in 
comparison to how it sounds now! ;-)

Oh, and regarding your Windows license.  If you're using XP you can probably 
just install it as many times as you like now.  But there's no way to "free up" 
a licence.  You would need to probably contact MS is you are using Windows 7 in 
order to activate it again.  But I still hold with what I said in that demo 
about dynamic virtual drives.  It's more economical to do it that way than to 
use Boot Camp.  Not to mention the convenience of having cross-platform 
on-the-fly access to documents and files.

Personally, I won't even consider using Boot Camp again.  It is wasteful and 
not a very efficient means of getting around the problem of cross-platform 
accessibility  in my humble opinion.  I'm not going to stray off topic and 
discuss screen-readers for other platforms.  However, you would need to 
uninstall Jaws I think in order to install it in Fusion.  So it makes me wonder 
what the point is in keeping a Boot Camp partition in those circumstances.  But 
for our own systems, I am happy with the way we're doing things now.

We have a VM archived I believe for when Lynne wants to do testing.  But 
ordinarily we now use a real PC for Windows.  That's because I am back into 
broadcasting and also Braille transcription.  I wouldn't dare try either, to be 
honest, within a virtual machine and as I said I won't use Boot Camp.

Gordon

On 13 Nov 2012, at 00:49, Phil Halton <[email protected]> wrote:

Just listened to the VM Demo in its entirety, and I have to say, Gordon did a 
fine job demonstrating VMWare.

I bought my first Mac this summer, after having used JAWS and Windows since the 
DOS days.

My iPhone's accessibility was the deciding factor in my decision to purchase 
the iMac. My principle use of computers these days is reading and writing 
documents, and making extensive use of spreadsheets for all manner of tasks 
involving the manipulation of text and data.

Unfortunately, I don't see any reason to learn an entirely new productivity 
suite like Apple's iWork, since I know and use MS Office extensively. I like 
the Mac iTunes and iMovie apps and I'm sure there are others I'll get to know 
and use, but for productivity, I can't beat the combination of MS Office and 
JAWS.
Now enter VMWare Fusion.
The demo makes me want to give the VMWare Fusion trial version another shot, 
this time installing windows as a guest instead of using my existing bootcamp. 
But, I think I'd have to either first remove the bootcamp to free up the 
license, or, buy another Windows license to install windows7 as a guest - and 
I'm a little shakey on both.

I've got half my 500GB drive dedicated to bootcamp, and the other to MAC OS X. 
In all my days, I've never exceeded 50 GB on a system drive, so I don't feel 
too constrained by this arrangement. I've also got a 2 terabyte firewire800 
drive apportioned half to each system, so I feel I have ample storage.

As it stands then, I have two systems in one iMac hardware package, and but for 
the minor inconvenience of having to reboot to access the other OS, and 
remembering the minor keyboard differences, it's working well for me.

Well, I just wanted to congratulate Gordon on a fine job with the demo, and 
give my thoughts on the Mac from the perspective of a long time DOS/Windows 
user.

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