Hello Dónal,

The real strength of Paprika is using its apps with iOS devices and the support 
for cloud syncing.  If you're talking about desktop or laptop computer usage, 
then MacGourmet is great.  It's a mature package with lots of features and a 
large community of users.  But what I really like about Paprika Recipe Manager 
is the iOS app versions and their interface.  If you already have MacGourmet, 
and want to take the shopping lists for your meals with you on your iPhone 
there's currently no good and reliable iOS app to sync this to your device. 
Read the comments from MacGourmet users about using the MacGourmet apps for the 
iPhone or iPad, the fact that the sync often doesn't work, or that the 
information unexpectedly disappears from their iPhone or iPad. Then read the 
comments for the Paprika iOS apps, and note that a number of MacGourmet users 
have switched to using this app for their iPhones or iPads.

On the other hand, say you are just getting started with recipes on the Mac or 
iOS platform, and you have an iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad.  If you get one of 
the Paprika iOS apps for $4.99 list, or $1.99 if you buy it during the current 
sale, you can use the web browser function to look up and pull in recipes from 
many sites into the app on your device, your cloud account will support syncing 
to multiple devices (if you want to coordinate planning and shopping with your 
spouse), and there's an extended keyboard with an extra row of keys to make 
entering your own recipes simpler.  Plus, on the newer iOS devices you could 
use either Siri or the dictation feature on the keyboard to enter your recipes. 
 I've also figured out how to import my text recipes into Paprika.   I 
originally recommended this app to someone who wanted an app to use for 
organizing his own recipes (on the iPhone, not on his Mac.)  You could happily 
just use the iOS apps and the cloud syncing by itself, but I think the Mac App 
is easier to use for importing than using iTunes file sharing.  And then you 
can cook using the recipes on your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad (suitably 
protected in a plastic bag, or other such high tech accessory). 

I think that Mac Gourmet is well worth the separate purchase for your Mac, but 
I really like Paprika for the ability to use it with my iOS devices and the 
reliable cloud sync.  I would read through the Paprika User Guides, though, 
because although controls are well labeled, they have their own layout and 
organization.  For example, to delete recipes you are in the selected recipe 
and use the action button, which also has the options to email or print.  

Here's an example of a text recipe I successfully imported into Paprika, in a 
file that I named "recipe.yml". It was an old plain text file that I had from a 
scan and OCR, and I just added the keyword syntax for fields like name, 
servings, ingredients, directions, etc.  You don't need to have a leading 
hyphen and space before the name if you're only importing one recipe in the 
file.  In general, key words end with a colon and a space, and text blocks (for 
ingredients and directions) have a vertical line after the colon and space.  
VO's reading sounds a bit better if you have complete sentences on each line, 
but I didn't change the sentence breaks from the way this came out from the 
scan and OCR when I imported.  Incidentally, if I try to import a file with 
multiple recipes and there's a problem with one of the entries, it will simply 
fail to import the group.  I don't have to worry about partial imports.

- name: Latin Black Bean Soup
 servings: 5-6
 prep_time: 20 min
 cook_time: 40 min
 on_favorites: yes
 categories: [Soup]
 ingredients: |
   ¼ cup olive oil
   1 large onion, chopped
   4 large cloves garlic, minced
   1 large green pepper, cored, seeded, finely chopped
   1 teaspoon each, leaf oregano, ground cumin
   2 cups precooked black beans and broth
   6-ounce can tomato paste 
   3 tbsp red wine vinegar 
   1 to 2 teaspoons salt
   2 cups cooked brown rice
   Sour cream, sliced radishes, minced hot chilies, chopped cilantro
 directions: |
   Heat oil in a frying pan and sauté onion, garlic 
   and green pepper together with seasonings.  When 
   vegetables are softened, add them to the black 
   beans that have cooked for at least 1 hour. Add 
   tomato paste, vinegar and salt and simmer, covered, 
   for at least ½ hour. Add rice and serve in bowls 
   garnished with sour cream, radishes, chilies 
   (to taste) and cilantro.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 25, 2012, at 02:02, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:

> Hello Esther,
> 
> Paprika looks very nice.  How would you compare it to Mac Gourmet?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Dónal
> On 25 Nov 2012, at 02:56, Esther <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> In connection with the U.S. Thanksgiving weekend, when there are sales to 
>> start off the Christmas shopping season, a number of interesting sales have 
>> shown up in the Mac App Store.  These prices look good through the weekend, 
>> and may last through "Cyber Monday".  (No guarantees on that.) 
>> <snip>
>> • Paprika Recipe Manager $9.99 (50% off regular price of $19.99) 
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager/id451907568?mt=12
>> 
<snip>
>>  Paprika Recipe Manager is a relatively new program that I just got and 
>> really like.  The developers did a great job with VoiceOver accessibility.  
>> Their iOS apps for iPhone and iPad, which are also on sale this weekend, can 
>> be used independently of the Mac version, but I decided to get this to more 
>> easily bulk import my text  versions of recipes and sync to iOS devices.  
>> You can also import recipes from MacGourmet, Yummy Soup, and other popular 
>> recipe programs to your iOS devices.  Using the desktop version of the 
>> program and the automatic cloud syncing with the iOS apps just seemed a bit 
>> easier than connecting an iPhone and using iTunes sync to bring the recipes 
>> over. If anyone is interested in the details of importing text versions of 
>> recipes, I'll do a later post.  There's a brief description/example of the 
>> format in the Paprika User Guide and you name your text files with  ".yml" 
>> file extensions.  I'll do a separate post on the iOS apps that are on sale.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 

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