Hi Esther,
I think I stumbled upon this when messing with my Apple Bluetooth keyboard
a while back too, but forgot about it. Thank you for reminding me.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, [email protected]
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
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MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Esther <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi John and Others,
>
> Just a reminder of another feature of the practice mode area for iOS: if
> you're using a paired Bluetooth keyboard and have navigated to the VoiceOver
> Practice area, you've effectively placed your keyboard into keyboard help
> mode (VO-k) for the purposes of figuring out keys and their combinations,
> what they do, etc. I came across this in connection with testing the
> ThinkGeek TK421 Bluetooth Mini keyboard (posted review to this list nearly
> two years ago). At the time, there were many people trying out new mini
> keyboards, some of which did not have either a Control or Option key, or even
> if these keys were present, they didn't know where they were on the keyboard
> in order to type the Control-Option-K sequence to enter the keyboard help
> mode. So when some people asked about the keyboard layout of the Boxwave
> Keyboard Buddy, which did not, at least in the originally released version,
> include a Control key, I told them they could determine this by navigating
> (by gestures) to th
e
> Settings > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver area for VoiceOver gestures to
> explore this for themselves, and that they could exit this mode by double
> tapping the "done" button in the top right corner of the screen.
>
> This piece of information has been around now for nearly two years, and I
> think that Anna Dresner and Dean Martineau may have put it into their
> National Braille Press book on using the iPhone and iPad. (I'll have to
> check my copy.) That's an excellent guide, by the way. The tip may be
> particularly useful for mini-keyboard that use multiple key combinations for
> some keys, or for keyboards which may have special, dedicated keys that work
> for the Home button or spotlight search. VoiceOver's keyboard help or the
> practice gestures screen will tell you about the function action if you press
> one of these keys or key combinations. Note that the "Fn" key and it's
> combinations is not used in iOS, at least at present. I don't, personally,
> use any of the mini-keyboards, because I can't touch type at the same speed
> on them and/or use the selection and editing key combinations as easily as
> with a full keyboard or the as with the older Think Outside folding Stowaway
> keyboards.
>
> HTH. Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2012, at 8:03 AM, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, the practice mode is really inconvenient. It's the one thing that
>> clients tell me off the bat doesn't make sense. Moving it to the home
>> screen or, at least, to the top level of settings, would be great.
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, [email protected]
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2012, at 12:41 PM, "Damashe Thomas" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I agree with everything John wrote. When teaching remotely, skype or on the
>>> phone really seem to be the best way to do it, perhaps I suffer from a lack
>>> of imagination, but I haven't found any other method.
>>> Jim, I usually get a client in to the notes app to work on typing both
>>> standard and touch typing. Since it's already there, they can at least
>>> begin to get familiar with the on-screen keyboard.
>>> Some good ideas you sent to apple though.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Noseworthy"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 10:33 AM
>>> Subject: Re: to all teachers of assistive technologies.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks much for hyour post. I do the same thing and, I agree that it
>>>> works. I was just wondering if there are any other suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> I did email [email protected] asking if they could have the
>>>> "voiceover practice button" moved to the first page when voiceover is
>>>> activated. I also asked if they could include an option within the
>>>> practice area for typing practice (both standard and touch typing.
>>>>
>>>> We shall see.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2012-12-04, at 11:03 AM, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I do Mac and iDevice training via Skype or telephone. It has been
>>>>> working quite successfully. You have to make sure they have the volume
>>>>> of their device turned up so you can hear it. Other than that, it is
>>>>> like teaching them as if they are in the same room as you. You should be
>>>>> able to hear their progress and from experience, it's often easy to tell
>>>>> if a gesture is not working and the possibilities as to why it's not.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2012, at 6:37 AM, Jim Noseworthy
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Folks:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am interested to know:
>>>>>> 1. if you are teaching your clients how to use an iPhone using online
>>>>>> technology such as Skype ETC.,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. if so, what is your method for accomplishing this task.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks all over the place gang.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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