Hi Anne, David, and Others, I think you're talking about Wrap to page and Wrap to window having no effect on formatting when you use rich text format. If you are using plain text in TextEdit, having Wrap to window set will change the number of lines on each page, and if you print directly from the plain text file the text you have printed will have margins around the text. So the "size" of each page in this mode of plain text with Wrap to window is determined by the default paper size you use when printing, and can be adjusted under the TextEdit "File" menu option of "Page Setup…" (Command-Shift-P).
If you are using plain text mode and bring up the page setup dialog window either from the File menu or with the Command-Shift-P shortcut, you'll view what appears to be a subset of the printer dialog window with the pop up menu button for "Settings" set to "Page attributes". Try changing the paper size or the orientation. You'll find that the number of words per line and lines per page of your plain text file with Wrap to window set has been changed to match that paper size and orientation, even custom page settings. I think this is why the VO page up and page down commands don't work when Wrap to window is set, since the "size" of the page is not so easily determined in plain text mode, but depends on font selection and page setup selection. Although most people use TextEdit in Rich Text Format, this option was put in as a quick way to get minimal margin formatting in printed plain text files. Anyone doing more work files under unix and linux may be aware of the fact that when you just send text files to the printer, the text has no margins. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Apr 16, 2013, at 3:26 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Wrap to page or Wrap to window has no effect on formatting. Interestingly, > when Wrap to window is set, the VO page up and page down commands don't work. > However, it's easy enough to change from one to the other depending on what > you want to do. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 16 Apr 2013, at 15:21, David Griffith <[email protected]> wrote: > >> brilliant that sorted it. >> As a matter of interest does this force any formatting change to the actual >> text, for example line length and margins etc. >> >> If so I need to be wary of using this command on documents that I have >> had sight approved for formatting. >> >> David Griffith >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> On 16 Apr 2013, at 13:47, Anne Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hello David, >>> >>> Try switching from Wrap to Page to Wrap to window (Cmd-Shift-W). >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> On 16 Apr 2013, at 14:24, David Griffith <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Lion I had set Text edit up to be my default Microsoft word viewer as >>>> it, >>>> unlike Nisus Writer pro and pages, allowed a Say all read of the entire >>>> document and, did not stop at the end of every page. >>>> >>>> Annoyingly since I upgraded to Mountain Lion it appears Text Edit is now >>>> replicating the behaviour of these programs and using VO A will now only >>>> read the current page and no more. >>>> I am opening the relevant files directly into Text Edit from Finder in >>>> order >>>> to avoid the time consuming dialogue asking me if I want to open files from >>>> the cloud. >>>> >>>> I am then interacting with Text and then pressing VO A, this will now only >>>> read a page. >>>> Uninteracting with Text appears not to make any difference. >>>> I have tried restarting the Mac but this has not cleared the problem. >>>> >>>> Has anybody got a work around for this problem ? Or is it the case that you >>>> can no longer read a word document with say all on the Mac? >>>> >>>> David Griffith <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to [email protected] You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
