Gordon, With the utmost of respect, why would that be non-public if you
don't mind me asking? I could see it being so during the testing phaise,
but it's been released at this point, the things that went on in testing are
things in the past. It would be like someone dies on the operating table.
While alive, due to HIPA, you couldn't disclose any info about the patient
if you were a medical specialist, but once they die, and you have their
death cirtifiquet, who cares at that point. They're dead! It's not like
saying anything medical about them would really per sé change anything.
They're no longer here on earth, so regardless your spiritual or religious
belief, the bottom line is, they're not on earth. That we can't argue. You
can't change something private that is only of the past. OK, that was kind
of an insinsitive point, and I apologize for that, I realize that, but I
hope that it truthly makes my point.
If there is something I don't get, then let me know, by all means, and I'll
refrane from further testing discussion, but I'm totally baffeled. Why
would that be still on NDA. Mavericks is out. O, K, anything still! being
developed in the present with Mavericks is one thing, that, I could see
being on NDA, but as far as the section of part that went on prior, to the
official release, I don't see where that couldn't be discussed at this
point.
I mean, you're the mod. If you say no discussion, no means no, but I
mean... no offense... really though?
Again, quite obviously, I mean this with profuse all due respect, and
absolutely no illed feelings are intended in this message toward you, Lynn,
the list, nor Apple.
Chris.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Smith" <[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Hi
I should make the point that although the operating system is now public,
what went on in the test phase is very much still non-public.
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On 23 Oct 2013, at 01:19, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<[email protected]> wrote:
I guess now that we're no longer on NDA, I will say I agree with Zack. I
too, found that the testing cycle was not exactly the smoothest. As I
recall, there was even one seed, I wanna say #3 if I remember correctly,
that was so broken, it didn't even boot.
Anyway... yeah.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachary Kline" <[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit
Hi,
Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not
been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will
eventually settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there,
before some people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work
as well as it could. :-)
All the best,
Zack.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall
<[email protected]> wrote:
thanks zack,
are you using the new update?
On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Mike,
A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the
new iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues
have been addressed.
Best,
Zack.
On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote:
Are there any new voiceover features?
Original message:
Hi All,
Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public
release, it is acceptable to mention it on this list without
violating the NDA. :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that
VoiceOver users wait to upgrade for a little while, as there are
still some issues unresolved from the accessibility testing process.
While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per
se, they are significant enough to cause some confusion and
annoyance. I suggest just waiting until at least the first general
update to the system before committing yourself. In particular,
iBooks accessibility is not all that might be hoped-for. It is being
actively worked on, and will be improved in the coming weeks.
Warmest regards,
Zack.
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