And, provided that they have Siri enabled. I've seen some displays where it wasn't, though it's very very rare.
Chris. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andy Collins Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:26 AM To: OS X & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? I would guess in a lot of cases you don't even need an assistant to turn VO on for you when you are in a store. As long as the device on demonstration is connected to the Internet, just press and hold the home key, and ask Siri to turn on voice over - Andy On 15 Nov 2013, at 04:19, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Brenda, > So, you don't have an Apple Store or a Mac store near you? How about a Best Buy? Staples? Even Walmart? Lots of stores are carrying iPads these days. And all you have to do is get someone to turn voice over on for you when you're in the store. > Mary > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:15 PM, "meadowlark77" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Oo! This is very interesting. I wonder what I'd actually think. Too bad I >> can't go get the feel of one with the screen reader running and so on. >> >> Take care, >> >> Brenda >> >> mailto:[email protected] >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paula Hobley" <[email protected]> >> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:45 PM >> Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? >> >> >> Hi there >> >> I am totally blind and I have both. I use both for different things. I >> love using my IPad for reading, as the pages don't turn as often as they do >> on the phone, and the battery lasts a lot longer. I also use it for word >> processing when I'm out and about. I like the Bluetooth keyboard case for >> the IPad as everything just folds in on itself. I am not so fond of how the >> menus look in settings, I find it more difficult to conceptualise. I think >> it all comes down to personal preference. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paula >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Griffith >> Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 11:16 AM >> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility' >> Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? >> >> As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to >> require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery >> life. >> The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap >> external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard >> experience anyway. >> >> If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely >> different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger >> display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been >> able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At >> the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which >> is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. >> However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely >> use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. >> >> So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to >> a phone seem very tenuous to me. >> >> David Griffith >> >> David Griffith >> >> >> . >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 >> Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? >> >> Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe >> iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use >> my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, >> write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so >> on. 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