Sarah and Phil - I'm just not getting anywhere, and it's not from lack of 
effort.

The problem is, without any kind of step by step, instruction, I can keep 
playing around, trying different things, but even if something does work, I 
don't know how to do it again, as I am trying to many different interacting and 
keystroke attempts.

If I knew just how to make a start.

Let's say I want to create a piece of music that had just a piano, saxophone 
and bass, how do I go about it? As you said Phil, it isn't at all intuitive. I 
haven't even found how to actually record anything; as we have agreed, the r 
for record option doesn't work, so if I select a software instrument, and then 
have to stop interacting, back out and out until I can get to where the play 
and record buttons are that require a VO space to activate, and then have to go 
all the way back to the chosen instrument, the recording, if it actually is 
working, would be recording all the time elapsed while I am trying to get back 
to and play the chosen instrument.

I'm sorry if this is asking too much, but a basic few bullet points on getting 
started would probably take much less time than loads of back and forth emails 
that give tips in a kind of abstract way that sort of assume some knowledge.

I'm quite good at working things out, but starting in the middle is more 
confusing than helpful. I did try listening to Ricardo's tutorials, but they 
kept dropping out part way through, and again, it seemed there was something 
missing in the demo. I've written to him directly, but haven't heard back yet.

Andy
On 24 Dec 2013, at 23:57, Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> wrote:

> Actually you can lay down tracks but bouncing them down is in the share and 
> export menu.
> 
> Take care.
> On Dec 24, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Andy Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Yes indeed, and I've now got the software instruments installed. Now the 
>> real fun begins, how on earth do I lay down tracks and then mix them on to 
>> one. Well, that's for another day -
>> 
>> Andy
>> On 24 Dec 2013, at 19:43, Phil Halton <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> We are talking about the musical keyboard that is opened with command shift 
>>> K in GB, not an external MIDI keyboard.
>>> At any rate, the l"r" shortcut is a non-essential. The problem mainly is 
>>> getting around in GB for the first time - it isn't intuitive at all and 
>>> takes some patience before becoming familiar with the layout and its 
>>> operation.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 24, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hmm. I successfully use gb with out the troubles you are having. and very 
>>>> successfully I might add for the jingles I had to produce last year.  I 
>>>> can vo space on the prefs tool bar and r works for me when I'm using my 
>>>> piano key board.  Also the app store or software update will dl the 
>>>> instruments and install them for you. You can even use your apple remote 
>>>> to control it unless you have the newer macs then forget it  as they don't 
>>>> have the remote info read senser.
>>>> 
>>>> Tc.
>>>> On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:00 AM, Andy Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ok Phil - mouse clicking works in the preferences. Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I still need confirmation as to if the preinstalled version of GarageBand 
>>>>> only comes with the software piano, and if other instruments need to be 
>>>>> downloaded, and if so, how can I get to where I can instigate the 
>>>>> download, and if not, how do I get them to play in the way I can get the 
>>>>> piano to play?
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I first bought this Mac, I'm sure I read on list that GB was 
>>>>> accessible and that listers were using it, but now, apart from your good 
>>>>> self, all is quiet on the GB help front, and if I can't move on from 
>>>>> here, would like to know what others use instead of GB that has good 
>>>>> accessability?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks all -
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> 3 Dec 2013, at 22:11, Phil Halton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> mouse click the buttons instead of VO space. First though, route mouse 
>>>>>> to VO.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 23, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Andy Collins <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all -
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Two things here:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Firstly, when I look at preferences for GB, the general button is 
>>>>>>> selected by default, and I can't change it. If I click the midi button, 
>>>>>>> or the advanced button, the focus just stays stuck on the general 
>>>>>>> button.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Secondly, I am finding that the GB app freezes, and I have to do a 
>>>>>>> forced quit to get out of it. Again, anybody help? It's looking like 
>>>>>>> I'm wasting my time on this software, and hardly anybody here uses it -
>>>>>>> 
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