Emacs or another programmer’s text editor will certainly be able to do this, but the problem of VoiceOVer accessibility will still be there. I’ve managed to get Emacspeak working on the Mac, but it wasn’t the most intuitive process as far as I recall. I do recommend it though, contrary to the common perception I’ve found it a pretty great working environment once you get it running Best, Zack. On Jan 12, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Travis Siegel <tsie...@softcon.com> wrote:
> Well, I don't use it, but from what I'm told, emacs can do this. How you'd > set it up, or how well it works is unknown to me, but if you want to go that > route, let us know how it works out. I honestly have no desire to use emacs, > (I've managed to avoid using it for the last 25+ years, and I certainly have > no desire to start using it now, so I can't help you in that endeavour should > you opt for it. > The only way I know of to get indentation working properly is to set your tab > stops in text edit to be the number of spaces you want each indentation level > to be, then just pound away on the tab key the required number of times until > you're at the indentation level desired. > I use a proprietary programming language to program diy hardware projects, > and it (like python) requires indentation to denote execution levels, and > it's a real pain for me to read someone else's code, though writing my own is > easy enough. At one point, I'd considered writing a precompiler program that > would go through my source, and produce the proper indentation levels based > on tags I'd place in the code, but then I figured out it's easier (for me at > least) to just control the indentation levels myself, though I think it may > be useful for other people's code, so I may go ahead and write the thing > anyway, just so I can finally have a definite picture of unknown code and > indentation levels. > On Jan 12, 2014, at 5:08 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > >> Travis, >> >> >> I have managed to work out how to do proper debugging with in python which >> means I don't necessarily have to have all those print statements. Only >> thing I would like to find is a good editor that would tell me the indents. >> Voice-Over doesn't give you this information. >> >> >> Sean >> On 06/01/2014, at 3:42 AM, Travis Siegel <tsie...@softcon.com> wrote: >> >>> Heh. Good luck with that. >>> Python isn't a programming language per se. It's really more of a >>> scripting language. As such, the typical tools used for debugging (gdb and >>> friends) won't work. Really, you need to approach it the same way you >>> would if you were programming in an interpreted basic environment. Put >>> print statements all over the place, and make it tell you what the >>> variables are at any given time. Php is like this too, sometimes it's hard >>> to know what's going on, especially if it's a production environment, and >>> error messages aren't printed (for security purposes of course) The only >>> thing you can do is springle print statements liberally through out the >>> code, and hope they tell you what you need to know. >>> Not what you wanted to hear I'm sure, but it's the best you can do under >>> the circumstances. >>> >>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Sean Murphy wrote: >>> >>>> All. >>>> >>>> I am seeking for people who are programming in Python on the Mac. I am >>>> trying to find a method of debugging Python script. 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