That is it precisely. Remember also that you can interact with quick nav down and right arrow. Un interact down and left arrow. Up and down arrow together is the same as vo space.
However The voiceover lock keys are useful if you are also using lots of other voiceover commands in a sequence of tasks as well as navigation. For example a powerful feature of Voiceover is its ability to copy not just text but any content spoken through Voiceover . you may repeatedly want to use VO C to copy last phrase spoken to clipboard. This becomes simply shift C. Also it helps if you are doing lots of virtual mouse clicks then you can use shift spacebar rather than shift vo spacebar. However for straightforward navigation purposes Quick Nav is far simpler and far more powerful on the web. David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 16 March 2014 23:33 To: OS X & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys Are you saying I can use quick nav instead of using the locked vo keys? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Apple boy" <[email protected]> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys > You can turn quicknav on and off anywhere but especially on web pages > where navigation is far more logical. Give it a try and you'll see what I > mean. Quicknam can also provide keys to navigate to various web elements > but these are off by default but can be turned on in VoiceOver Utility, > commanders, quicknav tab. > > Regards Chris > > Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! > > On 16/03/2014 20:29, Eleanor Burke wrote: >> OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but >> are you saying toggle it on and off as and when? I guess I can only get >> to know when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial and >> error or can you give me a rule of thumb about it? >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Apple boy" >> <[email protected]> >> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:25 PM >> Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys >> >> >>> Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock >>> them. Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know. >>> To save even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with >>> left-right. 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