Hi,

Ah this is interesting as I haven't upgraded yet and am still using OS
X 10.8.4.

I wonder if there's some way of structuring an opml file so that feeds
could be imported and put into desired folders in the way I want.  I'm
not too bothered about alphabetising them but I really do want to be
able to put folders where I want.  This is a shame as I really like
the app otherwise.

Catherine

On 4/6/14, Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think there is a focus issue as I've been trying to alphabetize my feeds
> again aster adding new ones. it was easier in osx mountain lion as focus was
> never lost, how ever it has become nearly impossible to do this under the
> current build of mavericks. I hope apple can take a look at this as I'd love
> to have the same access to drag and drop that a sighted person would have.
>
> Take care.
> On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Geoff Stephens <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Catherine,
>> When I get the chance later, I'll experiment with it to try to give you
>> some suggestions for how to get things just right with regard to the order
>> of folders/feeds in Vienna.
>>
>> For now, let me just say that your confusion about the enclosed items will
>> be eliminated when you understand that VO is not saying "two items and
>> closed."  It is saying "two items enclosed."  Maybe that will help a
>> little.  Still, it is a little tricky to get things
>> exactly right with regard to the order of things in Vienna.  Admittedly, I
>> have not been overly concerned about it but to get things into folders.
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Catherine Turner
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I wonder if anyone can help me be more successful at drag and drop.
>> I've been trying to create folders and put them in the order I want
>> and at the level I want in Vienna but this probably applies to other
>> situations too.
>>
>> I never seem to be able to get the folders where I want them.  Quite
>> often folders I want at the same level as other folders end up inside
>> them instead.  i.e. I want all the folders to be at level 0 but often
>> when I drag a folder it ends up at level 1 inside another folder.  I
>> wonder whether the disclosure triangle has anything to do with this
>> and I have always been confused by the disclosure triangle.  I also
>> wonder whether the use of quick nav affects how it works.  I quite
>> often get confused when VO says things like "folder bla level 1
>> expanded, 2 items and closed" - it seems odd to me that it can
>> simultaneously say something is expanded and closed.
>>
>> Anyway I wonder if anyone can help me understand how to drag and drop
>> folders.  I don't know enough to know whether what I'm trying to do is
>> impossible all together, impossible in Vienna or I'm simply doing the
>> wrong thing.
>>
>> At the moment I have a folder I created called development and another
>> called food.  Food is further up the list and I want to put
>> development before food.  So I have quick nav on and have interacted
>> with the table.  I go to development, VO says "development edit text
>> collapsed".  I mark it for drag and drop and then move back up the
>> list to food.  But it seems no matter if I press drop, drop before or
>> drop after I always seem to end up with the development folder inside
>> food or another folder.
>>
>> All I actually want to do is have all the folders at level 0 and
>> arranged alphabetically.  But when I create a new folder in Vienna it
>> often doesn't put it where I want which is why I got into this drag
>> and drop in the first place.
>>
>> Can anyone help?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Catherine
>>
>> On 4/5/14, Geoff Stephens <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Catherine -
>>> Yes. Use drag and drop.
>>>
>>> On Apr 5, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Catherine Turner
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Another question.  I've created a folder and am wondering how to put
>>> certain feeds into it.  I can't figure this out from the menus, help
>>> or FAQs...I'm assuming it's possible.  I created a folder called
>>> TechNews and want to put some of the feeds already in Vienna into that
>>> folder.  Can anyone tell me if/how that's possible?
>>>
>>> I tried going into the context menu and going to edit feed but this
>>> just allows me to change the url.  Option clicking on it does the
>>> same...
>>>
>>> Perhaps I would need to drag and drop.  Or perhaps I'm
>>> misunderstanding the way folders work in Vienna...  Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Catherine
>>>
>>> On 4/4/14, Catherine Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Ah thanks, that did it.
>>>>
>>>> Catherine
>>>>
>>>> On 4/4/14, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Try VO shift space.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 19:29, Catherine Turner
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sarah,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad you mentioned Vienna, have downloaded it and it looks just the
>>>>>> kind of thing I was after.  One question - I was looking in the
>>>>>> preferences and don't seem to be able to activate any of the buttons
>>>>>> other than "general" in the toolbar for the preferences.  Have you
>>>>>> tried this?  Are you able to get to all of the preferences?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Catherine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/2/14, Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> I personally use down cast for osx, and vienna for my rss reader. I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> own personal reasons why I will not get QCast, but thanks for the
>>>>>>> review.
>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 12:49 AM, David Griffith
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After purchasing QCast for my Windows machine I noticed that I was
>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>> entitled to install it on my Mac for no extra fee.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My initial observations of QCast on the Mac side is very positive.
>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> designed for use with Voiceover for visually impaired people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was able to import my feed OPML from  my dropbox with no issue
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> normal podcast subscriptions were instantly available in QCast.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So far I have only played Podcasts on the Mac side but if it
>>>>>>>> follows
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Windows implementation, as it appears to so far, you will be able
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> download podcasts into a  QCast folder in your documents directory.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> try to check this later.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> QCast offers nothing that is not already available in iTunes but
>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> with a massively simpler and easier interface. It is certainly more
>>>>>>>> straightforward to play a podcast than in iTunes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If your main way of listening to Podcasts is   on an iOS device you
>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> better off sticking with Downcast  though where you can organise
>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>> on your device.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having said that  QCast will definitely become my standard way of
>>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>>> Podcasts on the Mac.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> QCast cost me $10 payable by PayPal and the user key and activation
>>>>>>>> details
>>>>>>>> came immediately.
>>>>>>>> For that I received the right for a standard installation on
>>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>>>> side and portable installations on Windows and Mac side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It can be run as a demo with a restriction of  only one podcast
>>>>>>>> feed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was happy enough  to also purchase QFeed which is an RSS Reader
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> same programmer. So far I have only installed this on Windows and
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> appears
>>>>>>>> to work well. Again for the $10 fee you get rights to also install
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>>>> and for portable installations on both Windows and Mac. I will
>>>>>>>> report
>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>> if there is interest on my findings of QFeed on the Mac side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David Griffith
>>>>>>>>
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