Hi Bryan - Very kind of you to do this for me.
Your findings are interesting; I don't really understand how or what Java is/does, but could certainly give turnig it off a go when experiencing difficulties. I've just heard back from Hadley's IT guy, and he now says that he recognises that there is a coding issue on the field I referred to, namely "Do you read uncontracted Braille." He says he isn't a coding man, but will get somebody to look in to it that is. I think the fact that your experience has highlighted other anomalies flags up Hadley's need to look again at how they present their website for the people they are there to serve, who are not only Windows users. Thanks again, and if you can shed any light on what Java's purpose is, I'd appreciate that - Andy On 3 Jun 2014, at 21:47, Bryan Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Andy, > > On my 2013 MBA running OS 10.9, neither Safari 7.0.4 nor Chrome 35 went into > a busy state when navigating through those pages or the specific item you > mentioned; however, I did encounter a number of other smaller issues during > the process, including unlabeled popup buttons and fields that were > completely skipped during normal VO+Right Arrow and/or Tab navigation. I > won’t even bother to embarrass myself with a guess as to why these issues > exist; However, I did get some better results when I turned off Javascript in > Safari Preferences / Security, and then restarted Safari before working my > way through the Hadley enrollment application again. I know this might not > address the specific issue you are encountering, but perhaps toggling > javascript on or off in your browser might help with your issue. > > Once Javascript was turned off, I was able to use a combination of VO+Arrows, > Tab, and the Web Rotor to identify all of the elements that were previously > not being spoken. > > For reference, here are a couple of specific issues I encountered while > Javascript was enabled: > 1. Using VO+Right Arrow to move through items, VO skips over the Braille > questions, hopping from “Select your highest level of education” to a link > labeled “Enroll.” > 2. When I attempt to navigate this same sequence using the Tab key, I do find > the Braille questions, but still, the first Braille question is simply > announced as “popup button” with no label or descriptive text attached. > 3. When I uncheck “Skip redundant labels” in the VO Utility, I had an easier > albeit terribly verbose experience finding associated field and popup labels. > > HTH, > Bryan > > On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Andy Collins <[email protected]> wrote: >> I go to >> >> www.hadley.edu >> >> And click on the Adult continuing Education link [ace] and then on the enrol >> link. >> >> Their are four pages of enrolment; the first that works ok for me, asks for >> things such as gender, date of birth, address etc, not many fields to fill >> in. I then click the next button, and the second of four pages loads, again, >> not many fields to fill in. This second page asks about things such as if >> English is your first language, and what is your highest level of education >> etc. It also asks "Do you read uncontracted Braille" and as soon as VO reads >> this question, Safari locks up in 'busy' mode, and unlike in other >> applications, doesn't come out of it. I'm not having this kind of issue on >> other websites, but every time on the Hadley website. It'd be great if you >> have the time to test it for me; you shouldn't have any trouble with the few >> fields required on the first page, but the issue if it shows up for you, >> will be on that second page of required information. >> >> Thanks - >> >> Andy >> On 2 Jun 2014, at 22:49, Bryan Jones <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Andy — Can you provide a URL and detailed description for the page >>> and/or fields on which you are getting stuck? Using Safari on my Mac I was >>> able to successfully register online with Hadley late last year, but I >>> haven’t enrolled in any additional courses since that time. >>> >>> With regard to Firefox, the latest version is still not serviceable using >>> VO in my opinion. >>> >>> Bryan >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> Subject: Firefox on the Mac >>>>> I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the >>>>> Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, >>>>> Safari, >>>>> and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither >>>>> browser would change from that to "ready." >>>>> >>>>> I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with >>>>> some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it >>>>> to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with >>>>> it, >>>>> and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of >>>>> what I was trying to do. 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