Hi Jason,

On Mo, Jun 23, 2014 at 06:16:01 +1000, Jason White wrote:
>Christian Schoepplein <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> One big issue is, that VoiceOver is not focusing the cursor possition 
>> all the times correctly. Try opening a file with vi and navigate in the 
>> file with arrow up and down to get spoken the current line. You will 
>> see, that VoiceOver sometimes reads the wrong line, sometimes the line 
>> above or below.
>> 
>> Then try to use a program like mutt, my favorite mail programm :-). 
>
>Mine too.

*lol* Yes, there is nothing better :-).

>> There you also notice the focusing problems but also that VoiceOver is 
>> not able to track a softcursor, which is used in many of textbased 
>> tools.
>> 
>
>Adding the following line to your ~/.muttrc file might help:
>set braille_friendly=yes
>
>Mutt doesn't use a soft-cursor by default anyway.

I'm not sure if this setting for mutt will help. From the mutt manual:

-----
3.23. braille_friendly

Type: boolean
Default: no

When this variable is set, mutt will place the cursor at the beginning 
of the
current line in menus, even when the $arrow_cursor variable is unset, 
making it
easier for blind persons using Braille displays to follow these menus. 
The
option is unset by default because many visual terminals don't permit 
making
the cursor invisible.
-----

The problem isn't the not displayed cursor, but that VO does not track 
the cursor in some situations. For example, if you are in the message 
list and press "/" to search a particular message, VO keeps focusing the 
selected message in the list and does not jump to the bottom of the 
screen into the field where the searchterm can be inserted.

I'll try the mutt setting, maybe it helps, but I believe it will not 
:-(.

And ofcourse that will not change the problem with the lines that are 
not read corect in editors or in the shell.

>> Maybe the problems described above can be solved by changing some 
>> settings for VoiceOver or for the terminal, but I've not found out what 
>> needs to be changed :-(. But those both problems are the major show 
>> stoppers for a good terminal support in Mac OS in my opinion :-(.
>
>It looks nasty. I'm a very intensive terminal user and that isn't going to
>change, so if anyone knows a good solution to the above, suggestions would be
>welcome.

There've been some hints how to configure the terminal to get VO work 
better, but they did not work for me :-(.

Regards from Munich,

  Christian

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