Mmm! Nod nod. That actually makes a lot of sense. I mean, not that they did it that way, but the logic of what your saying seems to be the case, yes. That would explain why it seemed to be giving an inconsistent number of items each time I bring the thing up. Thank you very much for clarifying this. Again, I totally understand that this is only your observation which you cannot totally guarantee, however, that said, I definitely think you're on to something here.

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Is item chooser broken in Yosemite?


I would not say it has broken but it has definitely changed.

What appears to happen now is that it is available almost immediately but continues to increase in length of the chooser as you wait. . What used to happen is that on big web pages it would take a time for the item chooser to come up but then it would all be there.

Now it comes up with the first 22 elements almost immediately and continues to grow. I think this is what is happening but have no sighted help to confirm this.

So I went to www.bbc.co.uk/news and hit item chooser.

The Thirst items on the chooser were all items in the tool bar as expected but if I continually hit the end key on my keyboard the last item available on the item chooser was changing as further elements from the page was read into the list. So if I am trying to find an element on the page and the list has not yet expanded to include all the elements of the page it is very possible that it would not have got around to reading the necessary element into the list and will not work. .

I guess this takes a bit of getting used to. The upside is that if you want to identify something at the top of the page, especially in the Safari toolbar it is quicker than the old system, the downside is that there is no real way of telling when the list is fully populated apart from hitting the end key to jump to the bottom of the list and seeing where it has got up to on the page. It may also be slower at accessing elements at the end of pages than the old system.

I think this is what is happening.
David Griffith
On 29 Dec 2014, at 14:18, Eric Caron <[email protected]> wrote:


Hi listers,

Ever since I updated to Yosemite, I've noticed I can't use item chooser in most situations. Especially in safari it just hangs up and when I hit the escape key it cancels. It never actually finishes loading in the items. Are other people having this problem? Is there a fix? Thanks. It would be nice to know if I'm not alone.

Eric Caron
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