On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 09:13 PM, Mac Duff wrote: > Well, all the design and print shops that do use Quark are holding off > on upgrading to OS X (and possibly newer hardware in the process) > until Quark for X comes out.
Still not Apple's problem, and frankly, I believe that Xpress for X will be a long time coming, if ever. Look at how long it took to get v. 5 out - and it certainly wasn't because the very buggy v 4 filled people's needs. As Candace pointed out, many places are still using v. 3.2. I doubt that Quark, which is a tiny company, after all, has the resources to port QXP to OSX. > I don't think that Apple has to hit the mat COMPLETELY and compete > with ther no name fly-by-nights The company with the low price PC's I was referring to was London Drugs, marketing Certified Data. But no, I didn't mean that Apple has to drop to quite that level. They do need a sub Cdn $1,000 machine though, to hold up as an alternative to them. As you say, not all consumers want the high end goodies. > Oh, I disagree, heartily. iPhoto and iMovie are quite feature rich for > FREE APPS! Okay, I wasn't really figuring price into the equation. But I have a few free copies of ACDsee (came with scanners, card readers, etc.), and that still is better than iPhoto. > It's not fair to diss the free iApps-of which iPhoto can do some > things that iView cannot (at least from what I saw of the tour on > their website). Not that I know of, other than features related directly to Apple, like sharing via iDisk, or that vanity book publishing thing. > ... but for CONSUMERS, whom all the iApps are designed for, they rock. > Period. To use your phrase, I heartily disagree. Even a tyro-level consumer is eventually going to become more sophisticated and want more. iPhoto doesn't allow for that. > As for iPhotoi's surprisingly labrintine folder heirarchy, I sooin > learned to (snip) grab the picture in iphoto's display and drag it to > the Desktop. Iphoto will make a copy of the original pic (NOT the > thumbnail) on the Desktop for you. > For searching, deleting and moving files, I have come to do it > iPhoto's way, which is way more convenient (snip) as you're using the > same UI that you found and manipulated the media file (snipped for brevity, hopefully i didn't distort meaning) But iView does exactly the same thing, without creating, as you put it, a "ridiculous folder structure." It wasn't my intent to match the two apps feature for feature, I really just wanted to point out that there was another application out there, that ran quickly, with more features, in a smaller package (<5 MB for iView, >20 MB for iPhoto) The question was why did Apple make iPhoto so slow, and so lacking in basic features that are needed by beginner and pro alike? I like iPhoto, I would like to use it as my main catalogue program, but it's just not there yet. > ... can befuddle a pro but might seem very intuitive to a consumer. > For example, when applying an effect to a picture (say, go Black & > White), iPhoto doesn't ask you if you want to save the change; it > assumes (snip) that you're finished. That's not befuddling, that's downright scary. And I mean that from a consumer level. Saving destructive changes automatically, when the user might not even be sure what is going on? No, thanks. > Opening up a new browser window in IE LOADS THE SAME PAGE THAT YOU > ALREADY HAVE OPEN AND TOPMOST! Got to love that, eh? How annoying and counter intuitive can you get? Agreed, any problems I have with the way Apple does things pales in comparison to my complaints about Windows. It isn't my intent her to slam Apple; everything I say is meant constructively. They're going the right way, but I think they're missing out on planning for the future. > It's slow, but I do not find it feature poor. Depends what you want in features, I guess. As a catalogue program it really needs to have batch-renaming, to read EXIF data, to write data using the IPTC standard, user-chosen keywords, a way to apply those keywords to a batch with a simple command. And that's not just for pros, any user is likely to want these features at some point, I think. On the editing side, push buttons are great for starters. But it would be nice to have more flexible editing options available for those who are moving from "just starting" to the "bridge" level. Then they wouldn't have to switch their application. -- Mac Canada is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Shop Canadian, visit Mantek Services <http://www.mantek.mb.ca> Low Prices That Will Keep YOU and Your MAC Smiling Educational discounts are now available Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> Mac Canada info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-can.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-canada%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
