on 5/28/03 10:39 PM, Darren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have softwindows1.0 68k 8 disks with the last image containing a bad
header. :( Any help out there?
Made with a quadra in mind. Also have softwindows 2 which appears to
move to ppc.
I was also thinking of my old Quadra for use with Softwindows. I wonder if the DOS image for the 68K and PPC are the same. The last disk on the PPC version is simply part of the Drive image and might be the same as the 68k version.
I'm not sure it would work in my case as they seem to be a segmented disk image, worth a look.
I posted a web archieve links 2 weeks ago which still has the working
file, do a bit of work and get it yourself
http://web.archive.org/web/20011216023334/http://www.pcsetup2x.com/products/pr
oducts.html#pcsetup211beta
I had missed that link from earlier. Always nice to see the older items still available.
I could only find one of the download links to work which was the .bin file.
Hopefully someone will pick it up soon and make it easier to access, all parts now being freeware.
Lou posted this link which contains some required info and the same working .bin file. :)
http://web.archive.org/web/20020609180626/www.pcsetup2x.com/index.html
2.1.7 runs on operating systems that 1.6.4 does not, I think that makesI had downloaded PC Setup 2.1.7 not long back and was not aware it had dropped from site. I will burn it to CD and send a copy to the address you list. It is pretty small. A 1.4 meg installer for the Mac, a 1.5 meg DOS harddrive file with the Windows stuff and a 152K pdf manual. Unless you are using OS 8.6 or OS 9 on the Mac, V2.1.7 really adds nothing to the software on the Apple site. That is probably not technically correct, but for practical purposes it is true. If you are interested only in DOS on the PC cards, be aware that 2.1.7 has less DOS support than 1.6 from Apple. When running DOS programs from Windows, the DOS clip board is gone and with 2.1.7 installed one can not start in DOS mode.
it a valuble piece of software, I've not found any problems running the
dos 6.22 image. The 1.6.4 clipboard is used with 2.1.7, you install
2.1.7 over the top which is why its not a huge program. Thanks for the
info William, we must use the dos cards differently as I haven't
experienced the problems you mention.
I will have to go back and do some more checking on DOS with 2.1.7 for I have not been able to get it to work as a stand alone. I have only had DOS working within Windows. With 1.6.4 one can copy text on the Mac side, switch to the PC side and paste the text into a DOS application. The reverse is true as well you can copy DOS text and paste it into a Mac application. I have not been able to get that to work either. Perhaps it is just part of more general DOS trouble.
I dont believe its meant to be a stand alone replacement for 1.6.4 but a update you install over 1.6.4. I think the biggest example is the pc-clipboard file and the pc print spooler which are not included with 2.1.7 and so they are not over writen though the clipboard at least does work under 2.1.7 from pc -> mac, I have got it to work the other way. Sorry I dont use the clipboard much, I know its working because the icon is in the middle of the mac screen for a short time when I swap from the pc.
When one bangs away on this stuff working alone, it is easy to assume that the problem is simply part of the software. Now that I hear DOS works as a stand alone OS with the PC card and 2.1.7 I will go back and give the problem some more effort.
:) when I joined this list I had 2.1.7 installed as a stand alone app running dos only because I couldn't figure out the cdrom driver and I had yet to install the pc compatabilty software onto the pc image. I made a new larger dos image yesterday, it all seems to work, better suited for 8mb than win95. :)
I am not very familiar with Windows. I use DOS and the emulators in much the same way that many people use games. It is really just recreation. The Mac OS and Windows OS are productivity systems and for me I am sure either would be fine, but I chose the Mac a long time back and have not found any reason to learn a new system. I started with computers on a CBM 8032 (Commodore). Early on not only were computers productive but comprehensible. Mac and Windows are very productive systems, but for myself their operation has moved into the realm of magic. I find it a nice diversion to play with the internals of the old command driven OS even if its relevance seems to have passed.
I've got an old commodore colt down stairs, some sort of 286 machine. The SX-64 is something I enjoy working with, very simple, small so the programs are really tight and in a language I can almost work out, I guess the apple][ is a bit like that though I haven't played with that for a while. Magic is a good way to describe the way things seem to work now, I guess I'm a little tied to things I think I sort of understand like early pc's. One of my linux boxes rarely leaves the command line now, having used emacs on the amiga for so long came in handy. Doesn't mean I'm very good at it I'm afraid, though I wouldn't say the command driven OS is dead yet, many strange folks seem to prefer it. :) Sometime its the only way to do things.
Good luck with your 2.1.7 install over 1.6.4. :)
You may not have seen this link either http://homepage.mac.com/olivers/DOScard/DOScard.html sadly I'd guess you may have trouble with some links
I found a file called MAC-dos LC630.pdf on apples site which may of help to folks running early dos compatible macs a bit more than the 15mb pc-compatiblity-card.pdf which deals more with later powermacs.
Cheers
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