Thanks Ed & Steve,

I can't do any extension changes or zapping because I can't get it that far.
It will not start with OS7.5/OS8/Norton Utilities CD manually placed in the
CD drive, with/without pressing shift/alt/apple/delete. The motherboard runs
ok when inserted into my 6400.

I suspected the CD drive, so I disconnected it, but its the same. Do macs
normally start with CD disconnected? There is no switch arching noise and I
don't know how to test the psu.

I then suspected the HD. I put my good 6400 OS9 IDE HD in the 5200 and it
also started for 2 secs. I haven't tried my good G3 HD in the 5200 for fear
of damaging my work.

So I put the 5200 HD in my 6400 and it didn't start, with/without CD.
I put the 5200 HD in my G3 and it didn't start.
I then started the G3 from an OS8 CD and, although it didn't see the 5200 HD
on the desktop, the Disk Utility saw it. But re-formating failed.

Since it all went wrong when I inserted an audio CD, something must have
happened then. The 5200 was on sleep at the time, under Energy Saver control
panel. How does that switch the psu? Is that a pram setting? Are there other
ways of startup zapping apart from pressing P+R? If I could just disable
Energy Saver.

Roy


> From: Steve Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Mac UK)
> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 11:05:29 +0100
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Mac UK)
> Subject: Re: 5200 not restarting
> 
> on 13/6/02 1:00 am, kingsrd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Wonder if anyone has any suggestions.
>> 
>> My 5200 shut down as soon as I inserted a music CD (not Celine Dion).
>> On restart, it chimes normally and the hard drive spins. Bit it shuts down
>> after 2 seconds.
>> 
>> Pressing Shift on Restart is no use.
>> I can't start on CD using shift/alt/apple/delete.
>> I tried the motherboard in my 6400 and it works there.
>> I have swopped the batteries.
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> Roy Tam
>> Dorset
>> 
> 
> This is an odd one, as it only shuts down when a music CD is inserted, not
> data? Will it run normally without any CD inserted?
> 
> If the logic board and keyboard has been tested OK or isolated, it only
> leaves the PSU and CD drive as culprits. There is no way only a music CD but
> not a data CD can shut down, as powered completely off, a Mac. The same goes
> for the CD, there is no difference between reading a music or data CD.
> 
> The only faults I've ever seen causing shutdown at startup, or shortly
> afterwards have been due to a poor mains switch arcing, it will feel weak
> and you can hear the arcing as it fails.
> 
> Steve Bell
> 
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