This is an interesting opinion:

When authoring a web site, you need to make the site look good *without* CSS first. Then use CSS to enhance the layout. CSS is NOT ment to be the total layout mechanism. By requiring the browser to support whatever version/subset of CSS you're using, aren't you telling a lot of your low end mac viewers to go away?

Surely, because CSS has been so spottily and unevenly supported by various modern browsers, that view holds a lot of merit.

But of course HTML 4.0 and CSS were designed to replace the over-use of tables (say), in page construction. The problem is with the browsers, which have not fully implemented a standard devised eight or so years ago.

So, page designers who want to maximize viewership would minimize CSS/HTML 4.

Still, it's amazing how much basic construction a Web page can be given with the DIV tag and background tags and their specifications. My attitude on my personal websites is: stick as close to HTML 4/CSS, and have the pages look odd in some browsers, reminding viewers that bad browsers should be abandoned for good browsers, goodness and badness being thoroughness of implementation of CSS. Alas, I've determined iCab to be a very bad browser. It's also a very weird browser, in that it pretends to be a strict critic of Web pages (that smiley face/frown face) according to the standard of HTML 4.0 strict, but is unable to follow simple and long-agreed-upon CSS tags.

There are many problems designing Web pages. I did some spiffing of one of my pages, recently, and they looked great on Safari and Firefox in OS X. Then I looked at it in Explorer in OS 9, and it went all screwy. I went to a Windows box and used Explorer and ONLY the top bar loaded. Something I'd done using CSS had prevented Explorer from loading my site.

I've come to hate Explorer. It's a very sloppy browser, so a lot of Web designers love it; it's very forgiving of badly written Web pages. But it has some deep problems, and then some odd little problems too, like (in Windows) STILL not supporting the < Q > tag.

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