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On Mon, 23 May 2005 16:46:29 -0400
 Dan Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 05:55 AM -0400 05/21/2005, Hardy Menagh wrote:
Except for the font, I think you will be happy with the way it looks in the beta of iCab 3.0 as well. The font is the browser default.

The style sheet uses good old Geneva as the primary font, followed by a few other san serif options. I don't have access to the iCab 3.0 beta, but CSS support on iCab 2.x has been horrendous.

Looks really bad in iCab 2.98, because of the CSS.

When authoring a web site, you need to make the site look good *without* CSS first. Then use CSS to enhance the layout. CSS is NOT ment to be the total layout mechanism. By requiring the browser to support whatever version/subset of CSS you're using, aren't you telling a lot of your low end mac viewers to go away?

That's the interesting thing - almost nobody visits the site using low-end Macs. Instead, they usually are using modern equipment with modern browsers to research older hardware. We might lose 1% of our audience, but I think even that is a high figure.

CSS is *not* for enhancing page layout. It's a design and presentation language. The whole point of CSS is to allow a lot of layout options, and once I have the main layout working nicely, I'll be adding other options as well.

To get the most out of the Web, everyone should have a standards-compliant browser, and Mozilla seems to be the best yet. IE is a nightmare, although IE 5.2 does a decent job with the new LEM design. Safari is close, but it won't do anything with the line-height information. I'll have to wait until iCab makes 3.0 available to the general public for testing before I can comment on it.

I have heard several times about problems rendering the page in IE 6/Windows, but so far nobody has sent a screen shot, and I have no access to modern Windows hardware.

dk

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