Hi James, *,

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:41 PM, James Mckenzie
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christian Lohmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at Oct 9, 2008 8:26 AM wrote about Re: 
> [mac] macleofix4x11 needs a QA resp
>>On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:22 PM, James Mckenzie
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [...]
>>Doing QA for a CWS and "doing QA for MacOSX American English versions"
>>is not related to each other and more importnat: not mutually
>>exclusive.
> [...]
> The other thing is that I don't like duplicating someone else's work and feel 
> that SUN is much better at QA than I am.

Maybe this is a misconception here: Doing QA for a CWS is not
duplicating somebody else's work.
Nobody else will do QA on that same cws in addition.

>  Since the Mac OS X AQUA version is now offical and they are conducting QA of 
> the 3.0 releases and may conduct QA of the 2.4.2 version, I will not be 
> conducting QA of them unless SUN is not.

But they won't do QA work on each an every cws. That is exactly the
point where the community can make a big difference!
The biggest problem in contributing code has always been to find
somebody who is willing (and able to) QA your code.

The bottleneck is not integration into the master or the actual coding
itself - it is finding somebody who has the time and knowledge to flag
the cws as "approved by QA" - the rest doesn't add much delay to it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to talk you into doing stuff you
don't want to do. It is perfectly fine to say: No, thanks, I have
other plans for my time.
I'm just trying to clarify that your assumption (doing QA on a cws is
waste of time, since Sun will be doing it anyway) is wrong.
Sun is happy if other people will do QA (since then, Sun's
QA-engineers can work on Sun's own cws or do other tasks).

Qualified QA for a cws is always welcome, and I cannot state this
often enough: QA for a cws makes the difference whether a CWS can be
integrated next week, or in two months.
(next week: there is QA available, can work on the cws and approve it,
two months: need to wait until a Sun-Engineer finds the time to do it)
QA by a non-Sun-community-member for a cws is not duplicating somebody
else's (Sun's) work.

>  Simple, my efforts can be better spent working on other things (like riding 
> 50KM per day up some hills we have here.)

I understand that you have other priorities than doing work on OOo -
but your reasoning should not be based on wrong assumptions.

ciao
Christain

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