The issue isn't with NTFS-3G or MacFUSE, the issue is with a delay in Apple's UI and the actuality of all of those operations making it to disk safely and properly. FAT32 is reasonably simple as far as file systems go and I have seen the behaviour where the disk is still sync'ing data. This may also be a behaviour of the disk as well and other issues. This isn't a MacFUSE or NTFS-3g problem because it occurs with Apple's own file systems.
Sam Moffatt http://pasamio.id.au On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Jake <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks Sam, this actually seems to be the issue here. I think that the > Mac OSX, even with drivers installed, does not treat the NTFS drive as > a FAT32 drive in most areas, and because of that, the data does not > instantly sync all of it, and make it possible to eject whilst the > drive is still writing larger files. After all, the transfers that I > am making are between 200MB and 2GB, and the maximum possible > transference is 4GB. I'm sure that a sync will do the trick in most > situations, but just to be safe, I have decided to back up all of my > data and go to the inferior FAT32, because I have never had any > problems using my flash drive even as a live file-system between Mac > and Vista 64--in fact, most times when I was younger, and less > experienced, I never ejected my FAT32 drive when moving from PC to Mac > and vice-versa. I can't take the possible risk of loosing any data, > and a 4GB flash drive doesn't do the trick when you're a free-lance > designer working for a massive clientele, so unfortunately, I will be > reformatting. If MacFUSE could somehow offer a sync before eject in > the process as a safety, there may be no difficulty inbetween the two. > I don't always want to have to shiver and ask my self if I ejected the > drive or not. But alas, such a mere concept does not exist in its > current firmware, so I cannot use it. Thanks for the sync information > though, I have a friend who uses MacFuse and has been precautionary > about transfers, he hasn't had any problems as of yet and might be > gratified by the possibility of syncing before transfers. > I've learned my lesson though, I'm not taking any more risks; its kind > of hard to leave all of your future in the hands of freeware. At least > something I can buy can offer a guarantee or a repair of the drive, > and usually has professionals who restore data. > > On Oct 10, 6:01 pm, Sam Moffatt <[email protected]> wrote: >> MacFUSE is a library that provides a Mac equivalent to the FUSE >> library found on Linux. MacFUSE doesn't have any NTFS support, you are >> referring of NTFS-3G. With regards Mac OS X behaviour, I have also >> seen that the UI will update to mark that the disk is ejected however >> the disk is still actually being written to. Try running a "sync" from >> a terminal after your write, give it a few minutes and then eject the >> drive and see if this makes a difference. >> >> Sam Moffatthttp://pasamio.id.au >> >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Jake <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Let me start out by saying I support MacFUSE in their efforts of >> > bringing NTFS to the MacOSX, and am grateful to have their software to >> > help me write NTFS onto my SeaGate 500GB Portable NTFS. >> > Now, with that said and done, I would like to issue a warning to all >> > users of the software. >> > I have used MacFUSE for a great three months now on my personal iMac >> > at school, and installed it on all of the other iMacs in our facility. >> > There is no extra data or applications on our iMacs; the only software >> > other than software updates directly from Apple, and MacFUSE are the >> > only things we have downloaded from the internet. Now, all the iMacs >> > have gone through the correct install and reboot process, and for >> > about a month we had not seen any problems. >> > I am an artist. I work a lot in Photoshop. >> > About two weeks ago, I was doing some transfers to display my >> > portfolio, saving a large .PSD (around 400MB-500MB) to my external >> > drive, and upon finishing the save, I correctly ejected the drive (CMD >> > +Click>Eject). After ejecting the drive successfully, I plugged in the >> > USB to my native Windows laptop, running Windows Vista Ultimate x64/ >> > x86. Its important to note here that I have used Mac and Windows with >> > no difficulty for two months, and it is not the Windows fault. Once >> > the 'Autoplay' menu arose, obviously showing that it recognized the >> > drive, I clicked on "View Files/Folders." To my surprise, two folders >> > that I hadn't touched or saved anything to on the Mac were missing. >> > Both folders, unfortunately, contained all the work I had done from my >> > Summer and Spring Breaks, 3 months of works, and over 20GB of pictures >> > and files. And yes, the folders were in fact on the Mac's display when >> > I was saving the PSDs. On Windows, I looked for them as if they were >> > hidden, and yes, I also searched for hidden files on the iMac. >> > Unfortunately, they had dropped off the face of my eHDD. I was >> > devastated. Luckily, I didn't temper with the drive any longer, and I >> > was able to have someone take an entire week for me and RESTORE (this >> > required professional software) 80-90% of the lost pictures and files. >> > Nonetheless, I still lost about 2GB of data, files most of which were >> > very important. >> > I have read: "The driver currently is in BETA status, which means that >> > no data corruption or loss has been reported during ordinary driver >> > use, nor found in our extensive quality testing before release of the >> > latest version, however we are aware of certain usability issues and >> > driver limitations which are all documented and planned to be resolved >> > in the future. It may be revealing about the high reliability of the >> > NTFS-3G driver that an increasing number of users find hidden hardware >> > faults, and several Microsoft released NTFS bugs during NTFS-3G >> > testing and usage." >> > But this needs to be stated, as it has happened to me. Random files >> > and directories can be lost using MacFUSE, even carefully, and even if >> > they weren't even touched on the device before eject. >> >> > I warn that, upon using MacFUSE, that you may loose important data if >> > you: >> > A. Use MacFUSE to make your drive a live file-system >> > B. Update files by overwriting them on your drive using MacFUSE. >> > C. Use both Windows and Mac with MacFUSE. >> > D. Use MacFUSE with any NTFS drive. (which means doing any of the >> > three above and all other approaches using MacFUSE) >> >> > Although it is a nice and free alternative to pay-for driver/app, I >> > recommend that upon choosing an external hard drive to buy a FAT32 or >> > Mac-Based drive beforehand; otherwise, you can end up loosing a lot of >> > data using a beta freeware. I didn't think it would happen to me. But, >> > like many terminal diseases such as AIDs and Brain Cancer, you never >> > do. I'm not asking for the issue to be attended to, I have recovered >> > as much as I can. But I'm backing up my drive onto another drive and >> > reformatting it to FAT32 so I can use it now, because I'm certainly >> > not looking forward to loosing any more important files. >> > You may want to look into this, MacFUSE devs--random data deletion-- >> > maybe try to fix it. When you get a stable version up, or maybe Apple >> > finally buys into NTFS support, I'll delete the partition and go back >> > to NTFS. For now, farewell MacFUSE. >> > -Jake B. > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacFUSE" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macfuse?hl=en > -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacFUSE" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macfuse?hl=.
