Hi Dan, Dan Shoop skrev 2011-02-20 04.49: > On Feb 19, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Erik Larsson wrote: >> Dan Shoop skrev 2011-02-19 21.02: >>> On Feb 13, 2011, at 5:16 PM, snowshed wrote: >>>> I want to be able to read and write to external hard drives that are >>>> formatted in NTFS. >>>> >>>> Operating systems involved... OS X 10.6.6, Windows XP Pro, Windows >>>> Vista Ultimate, at this time. >>>> >>>> I am not a programmer in any way... I don't want to build, compile, >>>> glue, staple, nail, screw, do anything to have to create the necessary >>>> files here. I just want to download and install. The fun and >>>> interest in doing that went away 15 years ago. I simply want to turn >>>> my computers on and use them. LOL >>>> >>>> I have downloaded and installed the latest MacFUSE package. >>>> >>>> In simple steps, where to I go from here? >>> MacFUSE is a framework for building user land filesystems. It doesn't do >>> anything on its own. >>> >>> There are some FUSE filesystems for NTFS but they're not exactly robust and >>> good performers and not for total novices. >> I disagree. First of all a user-space file system is inherently more robust >> than a kernel-based one, since any programming errors in the file system are >> isolated from the rest of the system. > Well that greatly depends on your definition of the work robust. A hardy > performer it is not. And obviously we can have robust and cautious > filesystems that operate beyond userspace, as OSen have been doing so for > decades.
Absolutely. However, given the history of many of the commercial kernel-based drivers, one cannot really praise their robustness. ;) (Just Google it.) Conversely, I do now know of any robustness issues in NTFS-3G. It is extremely well tested and serves as the default NTFS driver in all major Linux distributions, so it must be doing something right. Even so, should an issue come up, the user is protected from system downtime because of the process isolation. >> Second: if written properly, performance is not distinguishable from a >> kernel based one (at least not on today's systems). You do however lack some >> of the tools that the kernel provides which makes it harder in some cases >> (especially disk-based file systems where caching must be dealt with outside >> the kernel). > Nonetheless the NTFS-3G MacFUSE implementation is a poor performer due to > several well known issues. Once you activate the UBLIO caching layer, performance is really not bad. If you want to go further, there is Tuxera NTFS for Mac, NTFS-3G's commercially supported counterpart, with many more performance improvements bringing it on par with any kernel-based solution. I'm not sure what other 'well known' issues you are referring to. >> And third: Have you even tried out NTFS-3G ( >> http://macntfs-3g.blogspot.com/search/label/Releases )? Click, install, >> finished. So it's as much for 'total novices' as any file system driver. > Yes, and it's hardly a hardy performer nor would I recommend it for my > mother. It's fine for casual use but for novices expecting to read and write > NTFS filesystems like the do on "other platforms" its poor performance over > the commercial alternatives makes me recommend against it. Expectations in > experience are a deciding factor. Well, if you have any specific comments on the user-friendlyness of the installer/preference pane (the parts that your mother will interact with), please vent them. Regarding performance, see above. Regards, - Erik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacFUSE" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macfuse?hl=en.
