Andrew, iDVD is not a free download and it only comes with systems with a
Superdrive.  I bought off of Apple's site iDVD 2 for $20.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/32/wo/jfM2nR
LfP88L3Bq2OWw1VtnsmOA/0.3.0.3.27.79.1.1.1

Ward Oldham

On 12/22/02 5:45 PM, "andrew arnold" <a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu> wrote:

> Thanks for the responses. I couldn't find iDVD on my X.2 or software restore
> disks. Maybe it only loads if there is a dvd drive on the bus???
> 
> Is iDvd a free download? I read that is wasn't because Apple wanted to
> people to buy the superdrive-equipped machines!
> 
>> Hi Jerry (and Andrew),
>> 
>> My observations are only from a hardware point of view and can only be
>> accurately applied to the first generation Pioneer mechanism, the
>> DVR-AO3 (or DVR-103), which is an internal ATA device.  The issue I
>> debated before purchasing and installing the drive was whether Apple's
>> superdrive had some firmware modifications which differentiated it from
>> the stock Pioneer DVR-AO3.  Discovering that iDVD recognized the drive
>> as a stock superdrive led me to conclude that the answer was "No".
>> 
>> However, this may not be true of the current superdrive which is
>> Pioneer's third generation superdrive, the DVR-AO5 (or DVR-105).  For
>> what it would cost for you to purchase the drive and install it, it may
>> be worth a roll of the dice.  My assumption from past history is that
>> Pioneer only makes one flavor of this drive period, not a second
>> variation with proprietary Apple firmware onboard.  Therefore, iDVD
>> will probably work.
>> 
>> Ward Oldham
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, December 21, 2002, at 09:33  PM, Jerry Yeager wrote:
>> 
>>> Not entirely true.
>>> 
>>> Okay, here goes. iDVD is set to work with DVD burners that are on the
>>> internal ATI bus. It won't run with burners hooked up to the Firewire
>>> or USB bus.
>>> 
>>> In many cases, it will not install off of the OS-X install cds because
>>> of this. If you do as Ward suggest, then you should be able to use it
>>> (though you may have to go back and install iDVD from one of the
>>> packages then update it to be current. Don't forget to get the firmwre
>>> updates that let you use the new 4x DVDs in the drive.
>>> 
>>> So are you out of luck if you have to get an external drive? No. Toast
>>> will burn the moves to DVD (once they are encoded in MPEG2 format).
>>> Getting them onto DVD is not the problem, encoding them into MPEG2
>>> format is. There are several ways to compress movies into MPEG2
>>> (including using QuickTime).
>>> 
>>> The advantage of iDVD is that it gives you everything in one place,
>>> and it gives you the "front menu".
>>> 
>>> Jerry
>>> 
>>> p.s I have heard there will soon be a retrofit kit for the TiBook so
>>> that you can pop a DVD burner into it as well.
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, December 21, 2002, at 08:52  PM, andrew arnold wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Since we're on the subject... I am confused. I have a 450 G4 desktop
>>>> and a
>>>> recent 800 TiBook. I would like to buy a new Pioneer DVD burner for
>>>> the
>>>> desktop so that I can burn DVDs of iMovies... I have heard you need
>>>> iDVD to
>>>> burn these and that software only comes with Macs that have the
>>>> superdrive
>>>> pre-installed. Is this true? Am I unable to make my own DVDs without
>>>> buying
>>>> a whole new system????
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> iMovie should be able to handle it. Just keep in mind that each
>>>>> minute
>>>>> of raw-uncompressed digital video (with audio) will take about 250 -
>>>>> 300 MB of hard drive space.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jerry
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 10:53  PM, Lee Larson wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 07:36 PM, Ann Richmond wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can you do a whole 2 hour vhs tape this way? Or are you limited by
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> camera's storage? Does the resolution capability of the camera
>>>>>>> determine
>>>>>>> the quality of the data going to iMovie/DVD? I really am a greenie
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> so any advice would be appreciated.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've never done a whole two-hour tape this way, but, if there's
>>>>>> enough
>>>>>> disk space available, it could probably be done. (What's the limit
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> iMovie input here? There's surely some HFS file size problem you'll
>>>>>> eventually hit. Jerry?)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nothing need ever be stored on the camera, so the storage of the
>>>>>> camera does not affect anything. You can store it on the camera, if
>>>>>> you want, and I often do it this way so I don't have to lug the VCR
>>>>>> down to the computer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The resolution seems to be as good as the VHS it started with.
>>>>>> Remember that VHS resolution is pretty bad compared to digital
>>>>>> video,
>>>>>> so the results aren't nearly as good as the footage shot with the
>>>>>> digital camera. You don't really realize how bad VHS is until you
>>>>>> start editing it in a program like iMovie where you can mix real
>>>>>> digital stuff with the VHS stuff.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Lee Larson, Mathematics Department, University of Louisville
>>>>>> Phone: 502-852-6826 FAX: 502-852-7132
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be January
>>>>>> 28
>>>>>> For more information, see <http://www.aye.net/~lcs>. A calendar of
>>>>>> activities is at <http://www.calsnet.net/macusers>.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be January
>>>>> 28
>>>>> For more information, see <http://www.aye.net/~lcs>. A calendar of
>>>>> activities is at <http://www.calsnet.net/macusers>.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Andy
>>>> a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
>>>> 
>>>> Remember the two most important things in life:
>>>>       1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
>>>>       2.
>>>> 
>>>> The software box said, "Windows XP or better," so I bought a
>>>> Macintosh.
>>>> 
>>>> "Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we
>>>> knew
>>>> the century was going to end."-Douglas Adams
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be January 28
>>>> For more information, see <http://www.aye.net/~lcs>. A calendar of
>>>> activities is at <http://www.calsnet.net/macusers>.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be January 28
>>> For more information, see <http://www.aye.net/~lcs>. A calendar of
>>> activities is at <http://www.calsnet.net/macusers>.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be January 28
>> For more information, see <http://www.aye.net/~lcs>. A calendar of
>> activities is at <http://www.calsnet.net/macusers>.
>> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andy
> a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
> 
> Remember the two most important things in life:
>     1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
>     2.
> 
> The software box said, "Windows XP or better," so I bought a Macintosh.
> 
> "Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we knew
> the century was going to end."-Douglas Adams
> 
> 
> The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be January 28
> For more information, see <http://www.aye.net/~lcs>. A calendar of
> activities is at <http://www.calsnet.net/macusers>.
> 


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