Bill,
I wouldn't have a clue about how to zap the p-ram, but I do know
that if you put in a
disk that is from a region different from the current setting, a
dialog box pops up
saying the region needs to be changed to play the disk, asks if you
want to go ahead &
make said change, and then gives you info about how many more times
the region can
be changed before becoming permanent & no longer having the option
to make
further changes...Is this the answer to your question regarding the
number of changes
recorded? --Cathy
> ----------
> From: Bill Holt
> Reply To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
> Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2004 3:41 PM
> To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
> Subject: Re: MacGroup: Re: Copying [faked-from]
>
> Back onto the original problem ... is there any chance that zapping the
> p-ram would reset the regional key to it's initial condition? Is one
> shown,
> somehow, the number of changes from one region to another that have been
> recorded?
>
> Bill Holt
>
>
> > From: Bill Rising <brising at Louisville.edu>
> > Reply-To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
> > Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 09:21:00 -0400
> > To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
> > Subject: Re: MacGroup: Re: Copying
> >
> > On Aug 4, 2004, at 2:35, KR'sListMail wrote:
> >
> > [snip...]
> >> Henri,
> >>
> >> You are very very wrong.
> >> I pay my GDM, IT attorneys $250 an hour to keep me in the legal clear
> >> on copyrights and licenses, and to also write my copyright contracts
> >> for my projects with the studios. Are you saying, what they taught me
> >> is wrong for the past decade is wrong, and that you know more than
> >> they do
> >>
> >> Hacking passkeys, and copying DVD content or any media disk for that
> >> matter, is not a sovereign "right", ethically or legally by ANY court
> >> of law here or anywhere. Copying DVDs, is considered reverse
> >> engineering and that it is considered stealing Intellectual Property.
> >
> > Of course, in past times, the same friendly folks who decided that
> > copying DVDs was theft also tried to make it illegal to tape radio
> > shows for one's own personal use, to tape songs from LPs so that they
> > could be mixed for parties, to tape LPs so that they could be heard in
> > the car etc. Similar bizarre (il)logic makes for bizarre differences in
> > intellectual property rights depending on whether the intellectual
> > property is printed on a piece of paper or in a pdf file on a CD
> > (example: If I write a book for teaching probability, then I get the
> > royalties. If I assemble a CD for teaching probability, then the
> > university can take most of the royalties).
> >
> > These same strange reverse engineering rules also are used to make it
> > difficult to expose weaknesses in software.
> >
> > [An aside: Intellectual property rights vary by country, even amongst
> > those countries who recognize intellectual property. If I recall
> > correctly, in Germany, it is OK to make copies of entire books for
> > educational purposes. Result: books which are only available as
> > expensive hardbound books here are available legally as cheap
> > paperbacks there. Shoot, it is cheaper for my students to order their
> > (legal) textbooks from Britain than to get (legal) copies here in the
> > US. All because of strange laws here.]
> >
> >> Plus, With DVDs the media itself is considered a canvas, not just a
> >> media material, since the disk is painted with art, graphics,
> >> trademarks, etc. This means the DVD plastics, the disk is an intrinsic
> >> part of the work itself- like the oil paint applied to a canvas
> >> painting. And with DVDs every disk is in essence be considered a
> >> "Master Disk" or "Original". Ouch.
> >>
> >> So, Copying a DVD and distributing it to another- meaning, in real
> >> life: like giving one copy to a friend, or worse, posting it online
> >> for sharing to lots of people, IS considered "Distribution". That
> >> means=Stealing not just once, but twice. Doing either of these things,
> >> is a severe criminal act, is rated a felony- a criminal equivalent to
> >> stealing a car.
> >
> > The problem with the way laws are written now, is that there is no
> > distinction between 'making myself a copy' and 'making copies for
> > everyone'. The former should be perfectly legal. The latter should not.
> >
> >>
> >> Minumum jail time for felony? Is one year or more....
> >>
> >
> > [horrible painful punishment for offenders...]
> >
> >> Thinking like you are? This is so ethically and spiritually- wrong.
> >
> > I'm not sure that the ethics are so clear, when the companies who
> > produce DVDs purposely make DVDs which can be bought, excuse me,
> > 'licensed', in one country and then not played in another country, when
> > there is rampant price-fixing, when prices are miserably inflated, etc.
> > Now... two wrongs do not make a right, but I'm not sure that making
> > copies for oneself or wanting to get a DVD in Germany which is
> > unavailable in the US, and then watch the DVD in the US should be
> > options available to the consumer.
> >
> >>
> >> Remember the lady that asked this question, about copying DVDs in the
> >> first place? Cathy? Rather than tell her to buy some hack machine
> >> online from some offshore crook, maybe she should be advised to just
> >> buy a used DVD disk for $10 at the corner video store, where-ever she
> >> travels. That's what I do, and I am able to sleep at night, knowing I
> >> have supported a few of my fellow artists in the entertainment
> >> industry. That feels nice.
> >
> > Hmm... and how do you think that you are supporting the artist when
> > buying a used DVD? The artist got the money fronted as an advance, and
> > (possibly) got some royalties when the original DVD was sold. Buying a
> > used copy only saves the landfill. This doesn't mean that buying a
> > bootleg is better - it isn't - it merely means that you are not
> > supporting an artist by buying a used CD or DVD.
> >
> > I think the whole issue is way more complicated than the view promoted
> > by the current US laws.
> >
> > Bill
>
>
>
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