On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 06:22  PM, Robert Schenk wrote:

> Thank you for all the good info in your response.
>
> To answer your direct question:
>> I am curious, how do you define spam? Advertising in general? Or
>> certain types of advertisements? Some are of the notion that spam is
>> any unwanted mail that lands in your in-box, other think that only the
>> porno, mortgage ads, etc. with the rest being just unwanted mail.
>>
>>                              Jerry
>
> Spam is what you used to take with you on camping trips. Along with 
> vienna sausages, dried beans and (a little bacon in your limited space 
> cooler). In the time before the big RVs. A fried spam sandwich is ok 
> but I never bought into their spamburger. Yuk!
>

LOL!


> How I define spam?
>
> The spam that requires action:
>
> At one time you receive 50 emails that the body is the same. The 
> spammer has a nifty program that has changed the sender and subject 
> line in each.
> I went on a search and destroy mission after this sob.
>
> XXX porn in the email. There were children here.
>
> Casinos. I've never been on the boat.
>
> General spam:
>

Agreed. But is this a question of taste (see below)?

> Advertising and solicitations from entities that I have no contact 
> with nor desire to,
>

This one is the tricky one. For the few times I watch tv, even on the 
cable/satellite channels, I still have to put up with advertising of 
one thing or another. I think its intrusive, but apparently the station 
owners say it has to be there to pay the bills. And its not limited to 
that. Billboards, newspaper inserts, commercials on public radio, the 
stuff is all over the place (many of these are promoting the same 
things that you have listed as spam that requires action). And I get 
some in my email in-box as well. The thing of it is, if I need to buy 
something, then I want to see the ads so that I can have a place to 
begin to make a choice. Until I decide I need to buy something, bleah. 
So is it a question of taste? For things we want to get, we give 
implicit permission for the sellers to bombard us with neato ads, for 
things we don't want, well, don't bug us with any info?

This last paragraph is pertinent, because advertisers (legit or 
otherwise) are mounting a front to keep their clients products in our 
consciousness by all means possible, and the internet is certainly one 
way to do it.

                                Jerry

> Or as defined at these sites: http://webopedia.com/TERM/s/spam.html
> http://spam.abuse.net/overview/whatisspam.shtml
> http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html#3.8
> http://mail-abuse.org/standard.html
>
> ---
> Money the size of cotton bales is being passed out in Washington right 
> now. Seems the NRA and the gun makers/sellers what to have immunity 
> for producing/distributing firearms that were designed for the sole 
> purpose of maiming and killing human beings.
> The right to bear arms? Their joke on you! You can't legally own what 
> a revolution would require. OK, morals out the window: You have shot 
> the tax sale sheriff. Is that Glock or cheap Chicom AK47 going to be 
> any good against that tank or helicopter gunship that is coming your 
> way?
>
> Robert Schenk
> 1821 Burdette Ave.
> Evansville IN 47714-5505
> 812-499-2874
>
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> WITHOUT warning!
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