Thanks, Lee, since I hardly ever get spam, I kept wondering who was so 
kind to me , because everybody seems to complain of getting too much of 
it.
Marta

On Jan 7, 2006, at 20:52, Lee Larson wrote:

> On Jan 7, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Marta Edie wrote:
>
>> And here comes my question on junk mail again : In the  mail 
>> preferences  under junk mail where it lets you check a box to trust 
>> the filters set by your  ISP , does this mean that if you click in 
>> that box, that it overrides your own junk filtering  settings or do 
>> they go hand in hand , and what does Insight filter out, ( my 
>> provider)  or how good is it in filtering ? If anybody has an 
>> inkling, please let me know. ( I am using Apple's mail, but it still 
>> comes through Insight, except my .mac webmail, I suppose when I am 
>> not at home.
>
> Some ISPs have a service where they scan your mail as they see it for 
> viruses. If the scanner thinks a message is infected, it will add a 
> field to the header of the message saying that it might be spam. Since 
> you rarely look at the headers of a message, this is a fairly 
> invisible place to put it. Apple's mail program knows to look for 
> these types of header entries, and it can automatically route messages 
> marked as spam into your junk mailbox.
>
> For example, I run a free open source spam program called SpamAssassin 
> on erdos. Almost all my spam gets caught before it's downloaded. It 
> marks the headers on spam as follows.
>
> X-Spam-Prev-Subject: Amazing, Martin
> X-Spam-Flag: YES
> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on
>       erdos.math.louisville.edu
> X-Spam-Level: *************************************
> X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=37.8 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_99,
>       DNS_FROM_RFC_BOGUSMX,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST,DRUGS_ERECTILE,
>       HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR,HTML_MESSAGE,PYZOR_CHECK,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,
>       RCVD_IN_DSBL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RCVD_IN_XBL,
>       URIBL_AB_SURBL,URIBL_JP_SURBL,URIBL_OB_SURBL,URIBL_SC_SURBL,
>       URIBL_WS_SURBL autolearn=spam version=3.0.4
> X-Spam-Report:
>       *  4.4 HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (IP 
> addr 1)
>       *  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
>       *  3.5 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
>       *      [score: 1.0000]
>       *  3.5 PYZOR_CHECK Listed in Pyzor (http://pyzor.sf.net/)
>       *  3.1 RCVD_IN_XBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
>       *      [24.8.156.123 listed in sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org]
>       *  2.6 DNS_FROM_RFC_BOGUSMX RBL: Envelope sender in 
> bogusmx.rfc-ignorant.org
>       *  2.0 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP 
> address
>       *      [24.8.156.123 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net]
>       *  3.8 RCVD_IN_DSBL RBL: Received via a relay in list.dsbl.org
>       *      [<http://dsbl.org/listing?24.8.156.123>]
>       *  1.2 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in 
> bl.spamcop.net
>       *      [Blocked - see <http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?24.8.156.123>]
>       *  1.6 DNS_FROM_RFC_POST RBL: Envelope sender in 
> postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org
>       *  0.1 RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL RBL: NJABL: dialup sender did non-local SMTP
>       *      [24.8.156.123 listed in combined.njabl.org]
>       *  0.4 URIBL_AB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the AB SURBL blocklist
>       *      [URIs: rootdudealltime.info]
>       *  2.5 URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the JP SURBL blocklist
>       *      [URIs: rootdudealltime.info]
>       *  1.5 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL blocklist
>       *      [URIs: rootdudealltime.info]
>       *  3.2 URIBL_OB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the OB SURBL blocklist
>       *      [URIs: rootdudealltime.info]
>       *  4.3 URIBL_SC_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the SC SURBL blocklist
>       *      [URIs: rootdudealltime.info]
>       *  0.2 DRUGS_ERECTILE Refers to an erectile drug
>
> The headers give the verdict and why it's likely spam. If the header 
> X-Spam-Flag: YES appears, the mail is magically shunted off to the 
> junk box. SpamAssassin is very effective. It catches 99% or more of my 
> spam, and I get a lot of spam.
>
> I believe Insight sells a service similar to this for $30/year.
>
>
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