I had never any trouble with a number of banks here in Loisville, also 
with certain websites that actually tell you they do not support 
Safari. I did have issues with BBT bank at first, telling me  my 
browser did not work on their website, but somehow the webmaster or 
whoever emailed me and asked me to click on continue anyhow, then a 
second log-in got me in.That extra log-in  and warning has recently 
disappeared and one gets right in with the first and only click. I 
don't understand all this, but my question : if a browser is not 
supported, what does it do to me the user?  In fact, what does 
"support" mean anyhow  in this circumstance and what do these companies 
actually test in a browser to give their "Amen" to the  one or ones 
they will allow you to use?  ( Testing matrix?)
Marta
To array a man's will against his sickness is the supreme art of 
medicine.
-Henry Ward Beecher, preacher and writer (1813-1887)


On Jun 21, 2005, at 8:50, Rex Baldazo wrote:

> I hate to side with a bank but I've been in their shoes and I 
> understand
> their position.  The testing matrix to support two browsers is large
> enough--the resources to test every darned browser would be too much 
> for
> any organization.  You have to pick which ones you support, generally
> the ones with the largest market share.  If other browsers are close
> enough that they can work that's fine but they're unsupported.
>
> I helped build our upload.com site which does a lot of the security and
> https stuff that a bank site would do--it was so difficult because we
> had to test on different versions of IE and Netscape and on Linux, Mac,
> and Windows.  I cannot imagine if we'd had to add more browsers into 
> the
> testing matrix (Safari, Opera, etc.).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
> [mailto:owner-macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Michael
> Robertson
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:20 AM
> To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
> Subject: Re: MacGroup: Safari Emulation
>
> John,
> I have had accounts with National City and Chase, do online bill pay 
> and
> transfer funds to my kids accounts, and have had no problems with 
> Safari
> doing this.
> Good luck.  Mike Robertson
> On Jun 21, 2005, at 12:16 AM, John Robinson wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all, and Jerry, you are so right.  I fully intend to let
>> them know how I feel about their support, I have three personal
>> accounts and my business account.  I will move them all if they make
>> it difficult.  I should NOT have to emulate any other browser, and
>> they will soon know this.
>>
>> John R.
>>
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2005, at 11:08 PM, Jerry Yeager wrote:
>>
>>> If you don't like using Terminal to muck around with the setting,
>>> then pop over to version tracker and get Safari Enhancer:
>>>
>>> http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17776
>>>
>>> This allows you to turn on the Debug menu in Safari. Once it is
>>> turned on, use it to change the User Agent to one that this bank will
>
>>> support.
>>>
>>> Personally though, I would send them an extremely strongly worded
>>> letter pointing out that their reaction to your request has the marks
>
>>> of some very poor customer relations. Not to mention requiring IE
>>> puts your money in the account in serious jeopardy since IE is so bad
>
>>> at security that the Department of Homeland Security tells computer
>>> users to use a different browser (uh, you do not need to mention that
>
>>> your are running a Mac OS). Also point out that many other banks
>>> doing business in this local area have absolutely no problems
>>> allowing customers to use Safari. Perhaps your money would be safer
>>> with them.
>>>
>>>                             Jerry
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 20, 2005, at 10:39 PM, Profile wrote:
>>>
>>>> Help is more than appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way?
>>>>
>>>> My bank will not allow me to establish an electronic account with
>>>> them unless I use Internet Explorer, or Netscape.  I have written to
>
>>>> them concerning Safari, their reply was a simple NO.
>>>>
>>>> It wouldn't bother me to change banks, I may do so even if someone
>>>> out there suggest a workaround (other than using one of the browsers
>
>>>> they suggest, I feel Apple's products should have support).
>>>>
>>>> I recall there may have been a way to get Safari to emulate another
>>>> browser, but I have looked everywhere and I just can't find where to
>
>>>> turn this feature on, if it exist.
>>>>
>>>> I am running OS X 10.3.9.  Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> John Robinson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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