This article might be of interest as well:
http://press.nokia.com/PR/200506/998214_5.html
Jerry
On Jun 24, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Jerry Yeager wrote:
> In related news, David Pogue writes about using the cell phone
> networks for internet access:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/auth/login?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/
> 23/technology/circuits/23pogue.html&OP=51f81c26Q2FQ3BB.EQ3BR-NkF--
> yDQ3BDQ23Q23!Q3BQ23Q3DQ3BDQ3FQ3By.NVe-9-Q2FwQ3BNCFNqCykQ3BDQ3FQ3A-
> Q2Fq.IVyQ7D9
>
> The usual soul-sucking (but free -- hmm, I wonder if Romero thought
> about this for his zombies?) registration is required to read it.
>
> (if that link does not work, Jason O' Grady has the start of the
> article here:
> http://www.powerpage.org/cgi-bin/WebObjects/powerpage.woa/wa/story?
> newsID=14699 )
>
> Jerry
>
> p.s. From my own personal experiences, NONE of the networks work in
> the out-of-the-way places I seem to end up in ... still at the mercy
> of those cartoon do-gooder bears that wander by and help stranded
> tourists and snake-bite victims :^).
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2005, at 4:19 PM, Marta Edie wrote:
>
>> You are so right, Jeffrey, the coverage for rural Ky , those wild
>> blue yonder places, is much better under cingular, especially since
>> the ATT and Cingular merger or whatever it is called when one eats
>> the other up. Their "pay as you go offer" was just nothing compared
>> to that of T-mobile, but if you have to travel to Ky's remote places,
>> cingular is good. And they do have a number of fine phones to choose
>> from. I had one of their plans until last month when my contract ran
>> out.
>> Marta
>> To array a man's will against his sickness is the supreme art of
>> medicine.
>> -Henry Ward Beecher, preacher and writer (1813-1887)
>>
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2005, at 15:29, Jeffrey C Smith wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> I use Cingular because I think it gives me the best coverage in more
>>> remote parts of Ky. I also have a plan that gives the whole family
>>> phones and enough minutes to share. My latest goal though is to use
>>> my Motorola phone's bluetooth connection to get my laptop a wireless
>>> connection to the web anywhere I have a cellular signal. I
>>> understand that this is possible (although still unproven by me)
>>> with the standard voice connection and OS X with no extra data
>>> connection fees. Have you tried this? Jeff
>>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2005, at 10:44 AM, John Robinson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Brian,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much Brian, this helps. I have talked to so many who say
>>>> Cingular is not good, yet for some reason the Razor phone is only
>>>> usable through them, so I may go back to the Palm.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, I needed the help, and Ward I will stop by and talk to
>>>> Mark, I want to come see your new duds anyway.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John R.
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 24, 2005, at 8:14 AM, Brian O'Neal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> CDMA = Code Division Multiple Access
>>>>> GSM= Global system for mobile Communication
>>>>> GPS=Global positioning system
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The better technology is hard to say. I'm not an expert. GSM is
>>>>> much older than CDMA. I believe that GSM has better coverage, but
>>>>> CDMA has an advantage when it comes to data transfer. GSM phones
>>>>> come with a SIM card. This sim card can allow you to change phones
>>>>> by taking out the sim card and inserting it into another phone.
>>>>> But, with that comes the problem of subsidy locked phones. I had a
>>>>> GSM Palm OS phone (a Tungsten W) It was locked to the AT&T
>>>>> wireless service, meaning I could not take it to another GSM
>>>>> carrier like T-Mobile or Cingular before the merger. Most all
>>>>> carriers lock their phones. Some will unlock them after a certain
>>>>> amount of time has passed. I think that I would go with the CDMA
>>>>> phone. Mainly because I believe, but am not certain, that CDMA has
>>>>> faster data throughput than GSM, and since your phone can do Web,
>>>>> email and SMS, you may want to utilize those down the line.
>>>>> Just using it as a phone you shouldn't notice a difference,
>>>>> except maybe the way the audio sounds from different compression
>>>>> methods. Clarity should be there with both.
>>>>>
>>>>> Opinion, Verizon-good, Cingular-bad, Sprint-OK, AT&T-Thank
>>>>> goodness they no longer exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian O'Neal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 24, 2005, at 1:14 AM, John Robinson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Advise is needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I checked with Verizon on a phone (Treo 650) and it's
>>>>> integration with a MAC. On the Palm website some of the features
>>>>> are only available for Windows, some for the MAC as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also checked with Cingular on the Motorola Razor phone, not as
>>>>> many features, but a very small phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is my question for the group, as I had two stories.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Verison salesperson said that the CDMA network that they used
>>>>> is far superior to the GSM (I thought it was GPS, not sure) that
>>>>> Cingular uses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once I got to the Cingular store they pointed out that the GPS was
>>>>> far superior to downloading of email, getting connected to the
>>>>> web, etc. then the older technology of CDMA.
>>>>>
>>>>> So once again I ask the advise of the experts. Which is the
>>>>> better technology? Will it matter if you are using it only for a
>>>>> phone? If you do what internet connection then would that make a
>>>>> difference as to which is better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks, I so appreciate the groups help.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Robinson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
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