Hey folks,
It's not fair to Lee or the user group to ask Lee to change your email
addresses. It's the end of the semester and he may be out of town.
Everymonth he sends out a listserve FAQ with directions on how to change
your email address. It's done automatically and doesn't require human
intervention.
So unsubscribe from the old address and then resubscribe from the new.
Lee's FAQ is below.
Happy Memorial Day weekend.
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Subject: MacGroup: MacGroup FAQ
Date Sent: Monday, May 1, 2006 3:00 AM
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
Reply To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
This is an e-mail automatically sent to the MacGroup mailing list once
per month. It contains some administrivia about list usage. It is always
available at the list's Web page
<http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/>
Additional questions about list management should be send to macgroup-
owner at erdos.math.louisville.edu.
Here are the questions. To find the answer, search on [n], where n is
the number of the question.
1. How do I unsubscribe from MacGroup or MacGroup-Digest?
2. How do I subscribe to MacGroup or MacGroup-Digest?
3. What's the difference between MacGroup and MacGroup Digest?
4. How do I post messages to the lists?
5. What kinds of messages can be posted to the lists?
6. I just posted to the list. Why did my message not appear?
7. How about attachments?
8. Is there an archive of past messages?
9. Will you give me a list of all subscribers to the lists?
10. How many subscribers are there?
11. Are the lists hosted on a Macintosh?
12. I do not seem to be getting all the list messages. Why?
[1] How do I unsubscribe from MacGroup or MacGroup-Digest?
To do so, you must send a command to, Majordomo, the software that
serves the list. This is done by sending it an e-mail message. If you
are unsubscribing from MacGroup, send your message to
macgroup-request at erdos.math.louisville.edu
If you are unsubscribing from MacGroup Digest, send the message to
macgroup-digest-request at erdos.math.louisville.edu
Sending your message to the standard list address will do nothing. In
either case, the only thing to appear in the message should be the single word
unsubscribe
Make sure your mailer does not automatically append anything else to the
message, and it's best to send the message as plain text e-mail. The
return address on your message must be in the database of
subscribers, so send the message from the same account you use to
receive mail from the list. You should get an acknowledgement from the
Majordomo software a short time after you unsubscribe. If this
acknowledgement does not appear, something went wrong. More information
about unsubscribe and other commands is available by sending e-mail
containing the single word "help" to majordomo at erdos.math.louisville.edu.
If you change your e-mail address, please remember to unsubscribe
from your old one and subscribe under your new address.
If you just abandon an e-mail account, please unsubscribe before you do
so. An abandoned e-mail address generates annoying error messages, and
the list's moderator must unsubscribe you by hand. This annoys him.
[2] How do I subscribe to MacGroup.
Anyone can subscribe to the MacGroup or MacGroup Digest lists. To do so,
you must send a command to, Majordomo, the software that serves the
list. This is done by sending it an e-mail message. If you are
subscribing to MacGroup, send your message to
macgroup-request at erdos.math.louisville.edu
If you are subscribing to MacGroup Digest, send the message to
macgroup-digest-request at erdos.math.louisville.edu
In either case, the only thing to appear in the message should be the
single word
subscribe
You should get an acknowledgement from the Majordomo software a short
time after you subscribe. If this acknowledgement does not appear,
something went wrong. More information about subscribe and other
commands is available by sending e-mail containing the single word
"help" to majordomo at erdos.math.louisville.edu.
[3] What's the difference between MacGroup and MacGroup Digest?
Both have the same content. Subscribers to MacGroup get the messages one
at a time, as they are sent. Subscribers to MacGroup Digest get all the
messages since the previous digest as one long message. The digests are
generated whenever the queued messages exceed 80K bytes, or at 5:15 p.m.
daily, whichever comes first.
The digested version of the list is still somewhat experimental. Because
of the dozens of different combinations of character sets and formatting
regularly used in e-mail, it's no easy job to cleanly concatenate the
messages when the digest is created. Many lists solve the problem by
requiring all posters to adhere to a strict set of rules. We're trying a
different approach; we're developing a program to parse the various
formats into a common form. For this reason, you'll occasionally see
unexpected formatting problems on the digest as we experiment with
different ways to mangle the messages posted to MacGroup into a form
suitable for MacGroup Digest. You can help when you see a possible
formatting error by calling it to our attention.
[4] How do I post messages to the lists?
To post a message to the discussion lists, just send an ordinary email
message to macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu. This message will be
automatically distributed to all 150+ subscribers. Only subscribers are
allowed to post messages, so be sure to send the message from the same
email address you use to receive messages from the list. If the return
address on the message is not in the subscriber list, the message will
be rejected.
There is no moderation on the lists, so be careful what you post. When
your message is sent, it will be immediately forwarded to all list
subscribers.
There are a few nuances to posting that are sometimes nuisances.
First, the list management software, Majordomo, is set to look for
certain key words in the subject of messages to avoid administrative
commands being posted to the list. These include words such as subscribe
and unsubscribe. Messages posted with these key words in the subject are
likely to be rejected. Any line containing the string +++ will not
appear in the digest.
Second, only those subscribed to the list may post to the list. All
other messages are rejected. The way Majordomo determines membership is
from the sender's e-mail address. So, if you want to post to the list,
you should probably send the message from the same account at which you
receive mail from the list. (Or set your mail software to have an
appropriate return address.) The reason for this requirement is to keep
the spammers off the list.
[5] What kinds of messages can be posted to the list?
Any message that concerns Macintosh computers. The connection can even
be quite tenuous. This includes computer items for sale and commercial
events and seminars with Macintosh themes. Buying, selling and trading
software is allowed, as long as the transaction is legal. When in doubt,
ask first; the answer will probably be to go ahead and post it.
The list is closed to general spam mail, and we have gone to some
trouble in our efforts to keep spam off this list. We do not consider
advertising for Mac-related products to be spam, in the context of the
MacGroup list.
[6] I just posted to the list. Why did my message not appear?
The usual reason for this is that the return address on your posting is
not the account at which you are subscribed. Most of the time this
happens because somebody subscribes with their home address and tries to
post with their work address, or vice versa. To cut down on spammers,
only list subscribers are allowed to post.
In a few cases, the message is rejected by the Majordomo software for
technical reasons. The most common of these is the message exceeding the
40,000 character limit.
[7] How about attachments?
Attachments are discouraged because the digest cannot handle them.
[8] Is there an archive of past messages?
Creating an archive of this list is an on-going project. There is a
partial archive at the list's Web page
<http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/>
The archive is still being worked on, and may not be reliable. There's
also no way to search it (yet). If there is demand for them, features
will be added (slowly).
[9] Will you give me a listing of all subscribers to the lists?
No.
[10] How many subscribers are there?
On February 27, 2006, MacGroup had 274 subscribers and MacGroup-Digest
had 26 subscribers.
[11] Are the lists hosted on a Macintosh?
Unfortunately, no, although they could easily be hosted on Mac OS X. The
current hardware is a Linux server with dual Pentium III processors. The
list management software is Majordomo, augmented by some custom Perl
routines due to Jerry Yeager. If someone wants to donate a Macintosh on
which to host MacGroup, we'll be happy to entertain that idea. Until
then, we have better things to do with our Macs.
[12] I do not seem to be getting all the list messages. Why?
Some Internet service providers have installed spam filters that are
overly aggressive. For some reason, they identify seemingly random
messages from MacGroup as spam. If you're having this problem, you'll
have to complain to your ISP because there's little we can do.
Full mailboxes are another common reason why mail fails to reach
subscribers. We usually let such bounce messages pile up for about a
week before removing an address.
28-February-06
| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be May 23 at Pitt Academy, 6010 Preston Highway.
| The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
| List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu>
| List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>
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| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be June 27 at Pitt Academy, 6010 Preston Highway.
| The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
| List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu>
| List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>
