This one seems to be almost into the "expensive stage". Assuming:

1) The now good master hard drive does have at least a few GB of free 
space (if it is actually full or close to it, then problem m ay be 
solved, OS-X needs some space on the drive for swap files, if it cannot 
find free space, start-up will be slow or not happen).  <-- Feel free 
to correct the grammar of the sentence beginning ... 'The now good 
master hard drive'  reads just a bit jarringly odd.

2) The RAM chips are good. Bad RAM will affect things in weird ways.

3) DW is the OS-X version and not the OS-9 version, both 1) and 2) 
affect this point with OS-9 being more forgiving than OS-X.


Try pushing the on board re-set switch a few times, followed by (if 
this by itself does not work)
Try pulling the on-board battery and leaving it out for a little over a 
half hour or so then put it back in. This will really reset things. 
(This is a last resort, serious type of thing).

                                Jerry


On Jul 12, 2005, at 10:45 PM, Robert Klein wrote:

> I took out the good drive, found a label that illustrated how to set 
> the
> jumpers for slave, master, etc., so I changed it to Master.  I 
> reinstalled
> it, started up with Disk Warrior and, behold, it came up as a master.  
> I ran
> a diagnostic on it and it was fine.
>
> Now, I still have all of the exact same problems as before.  I reset 
> the
> PRAM and NVRAM again per instructions on the Apple support pages.  I
> double-checked the Software Install and Tiger disks on another 
> computer to
> make sure they were OK (they were).
>
> I took Mike's suggestion and did an option-startup.  A blue screen 
> came up
> with a 270-degree arrow in one box on the left and a straight arrow in 
> a box
> on the right side.  When I clicked on the left one, it appeared to 
> make the
> optical drive run.  The other button did nothing.  Only when I 
> inserted the
> DW CD did a disk icon come up (in the middle) and it was called 
> "utility
> disk".  Now, I'm thinking, I am stuck with the "expensive option."
>
> I have an external firewire drive that I use for backups.  I can't 
> find a
> way to make it a bootable drive without cloning it (and losing my other
> data) via SuperDuper!, for example. I looked all over the Apple 
> discussion
> boards, versiontracker, etc.
>
> This is a real puzzle.
>
> R
>
>
> On 7/12/05 5:15 PM, "macgroup-digest"
> <owner-macgroup-digest at erdos.math.louisville.edu> emailed:
>
>> There is probably a jumper on the drive itself that has to be changed
>> from the slave to the master position. The system won't work right
>> with a slave drive and no master drive on the IDE ribbon.
>
>
>
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