Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for the info. I wouldn't mess with filevault, but our company is
insisting that all data be encrypted, especially on laptops. If a laptop is
lost or stolen, there will be an "interview" with the CIS dept. to determine
if encryption was used. I have no other choice, especially if I want to keep
Macs within our team.

I might be interested in speaking with you off-list, I think your suggestion
to figure out the file size first is a good one. Some users do have their
own iPhoto and iTunes files on their machines. This could be a big problem.
However, what if they simply left their iTunes and iPhoto folders another
place on the HD and simply put an alias of them into their Home folder? I am
not worried about backing up and encrypting those files. Does anyone know if
there is a problem with this approach?

A

> Andy,
> 
> A couple of things: First you need to examine why you need File Vault.
> It is scary technology to me because it ties up your whole user folder
> into one encrypted archive, that, in the event of any kind of
> corruption, would make very necessary that backup you had better have
> done very recently.
> 
> Also, there are several applications that I have heard of that don't
> play well or at all with FileVault enabled.
> 
> You're right about the fact that it will make larger backups necessary
> every night. Big time. Everybody's whole user folder, every night. The
> only solution to that is to get a large, fast backup. That means
> dumping any thought of USB as a viable solution. I'd suggest a FireWire
> DAT, AIT or DLT drive. Plan on $800-$2000 for the drive. Your media
> costs are going to be higher, too: 40? to $1.00/GB for the various
> tapes that hold 20-40GB.
> 
> Another option is an external DVD drive. Drive, media costs and maximum
> capacity lower.
> 
> The first thing you do is find out how much space you will need on a
> nightly basis and choose a medium that will work well for you. With
> tape you should be able to get a whole normal backup and several
> incremental backups on one tape. With DVD you are probably going to
> want to use one disk per night. Remember that FileVault, as you
> mentioned, sort of messes up the concept of nightly incrementals. Man,
> I HOPE you don't have any heavy iApps (iPhoto, iTunes, iMovie, etc.)
> users on your network.
> 
> You can get a Sonnet Harmoni for the iMac that will add a faster
> processor and a FW port for about $250. For less than $150 you can get
> a Beige G3 from MegaMacs.com and add a FW card for less than $100.
> 
> YMMV
> 
> I have set up several clients with DAT, AIT and CD backups solutions.
> Feel free to ask more questions, on- or off-list.
> 
> jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 6, 2004, at 5:15 PM, macgroup-digest wrote:
> 
>> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 22:55:51 -0500
>> From: andrew arnold <a0arno01 at Louisville.edu>
>> Subject: MacGroup: Backup suggestions?
>> 
>> I have an iMac on a network that serves as our "server". It is a 350mhz
>> model with usb and ethernet, no firewire. I have been backing up using
>> a
>> CD-RW burner and Retrospect on the iMac. I know many of you use
>> Retrospect.
>> 
>> I am required at work to begin using file vault on all the machines
>> (6). I
>> have read that this will increase the size and time of backups
>> dramatically,
>> because the whole user folder must be backed up when there is even a
>> small
>> incremental change to one of the files.
>> 
>> So my question is this: Is there a USB-DVD burner or USB tape backup
>> drive
>> that would be a better option than a CD-RW? Or any other bright
>> suggestions???
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Andy
>> a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
>> 
> --
> Jonathan Fletcher
> jfletch at newmediaconstco.com
> 
> 
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