Since I had thought everybody on the mailing list had gotten the letter, but apparently did not, here is my first answer to the questions posed, before I finally wrote to the group, since nothing had been forthcoming from the members, and I felt the problem should be addressed.
Marta



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From: Marta Edie <[email protected]>
Date: December 30, 2008 10:05:57 pm EST
To: Tom Guenthner <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Comments from a past member

Tom, I don't feel at all this way. do these people now talk only about the meetings or do they want to know by writing email? - I am not a tech, I have these computers and I ask any question I have, and I always get a kind soul to answer. I don't have a business, I used to teach at the UofL and there had an Apple 2e. I learned by asking questions. I know these gurus are not the most inviting people, meaning they don't fall all over you, and make coffee at the meetings, I tried to remedy that long ago, but then you do have to make your presence known, tell them to listen to you, you are also around and they once were also on your level.

I am too old to drive at night, so I don't get to the meetings, except when I really want to, then I ask to be taken .

Now as to the group and their emailing, I find it wonderful. Half of the time I don't understand when somebody asks something about which I know nothing, however, even in the most technological discourse, I do usually find some little morsel that gets stuck , and all of a sudden,maybe months later, I get the "aha" moment.

When I ask a question and Lee gets a bit esoteric, then I call him down to my level, and he performs marvellously well in common bread and butter language.

I am asking Janette and Herb, did they ever pose a question to the group ? If they don't email the group, how will the group know what to answer? I really wished there would be more beginners asking questions, perhaps I might get the privilege to post an answer myself. What accomplishment that would be!.

I think this group bouncing around questions is a wonderful bunch of all sorts, many of them even have a sense of humor and it is always great to be given insights and pointers and tips. And since I have ittle tech expertise, I give my wild side kicks, just to be heard in some way.

So Herb, and Janet and whoever is out there feeling outcast, I invite you to bring your questions, and I am sure some of those of the tech Elite will give you an answer.

Let me tell you my first question which I posed to the now famous Tech-Guy of the New York Times , David Pogue, who at that time tried to help as he was learning himself. Well , my address book sported the Alphabet beginning with the Z all of a sudden, a terrible thing. I was unable to get the A back on the top. So I emailed him and was told that there was a small triangle which, when being clicked, would bring the world back into order. And he added a few things of that humor he is famous for. This small attempt even ended in a friendship with the whole Pogue family. So you never know what may lie at the end of that tech-question-path.

P.S. Now if you have specific questions which cannot be answered by anybody via email, because they "need" to really "SEE" and handle your computer, you can always go to the Apple store. You can make an appointment at the "Genius" Bar there, and, believe me, not all of them are geniuses either, and get 20 minutes very personal attention to your questions. I am well know there, too, for my persistence.

Marta




On Dec 30, 2008, at 8:16 pm, Tom Guenthner wrote:


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From: herbert sievers <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:06:10 -0500
To: Tom Guenthner <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Comments from a past member


TOM -
I feel the same way. I have a Mini. The meetings are more entertainment than helpful to me. I have problems that I am not interested in solving with bought software or the latest Mac's. Way back when I had questions there seemed little interest in helping.
Herb Sievers

On Dec 30, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Tom Guenthner wrote:

Members,
Anyone want to reply or help this problem for Janet and others that may feel the same way.

 Tom

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 From: Janet Woodard <[email protected]>
 Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:31:24 -0600
 To: Tom Guenther <[email protected]>
 Subject: RE: LCS Access




Tom, I don't know if my input would mean anything to your group, but here is why I no longer belong. The group is made up largely of professional people who use their macs professionally, which is great for them. But when an individual like me sits down with them, it's like being in a room full of people not speaking my language. Like many Mac users, I have problems as well as questions; in addition, I use a G3 Powerbook which, although updated with the latest OS, is like a Model T to the membership. Needless to say, the Mac users club was not geared to my type of usage. There are probably many like me, and I wish there was a group that could speak our language, which is not the latest tech stuff from Apple. I have a daughter with a Macbook, and, like me, she just uses it at home. She has many unanswered questions too. There simply is no place for us to go to get answers. I started out (as an educator) using the very first Apples and continued keeping up to date until my retirement in 1993. I also had the first computerized school library in Illinois. My computer is truly my window on the world, but where is there anyone to help those of us who do not avidly keep up with the latest? I love my Powerbook, and compared to my daughter's new Macbook, it still does almost the same job with some features her new Mac does not have. I wouldn't trade this one for hers. I do have DSL which helps with speed, and I'm going to check out the new Cricket modem, but I'll break anyone's arm who tries to take my G3 away from me! I do want to add that I feel there needs to be a group for the more advanced users even though it didn't answer my needs. Thanks for "listening," Tom. Jan Woodard


Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:34:41 -0500
 Subject: LCS Access
 From: [email protected]
 To: [email protected]

LCS Access Tuesday night is the next meeting. It is also the last meeting this year. Please try to attend as we need to talk about the future of our Mac Group. Your help is needed.
 Newsletter ACCESS is attached.

 Happy Turkey Day!
 Merry Holidays! (all of them)
 Happy New Year! (Sure hope 2009 is better than 2008 has been)


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