Marta:

The real problem with computers are the typos; if computers could  
stop typos, the world would be a better place to live. Here is my  
last message with some corrections:

There is a lot of truth to what you say, but few decisions are black  
or white. If you would like to see the various advantages of  
measuring systems other than the metric system, please read the  
recently released book by Andro Linklater, Measuring America, Walker  
& Co.. New York, 2002. This book particularly goes into the  
advantages of measuring land by using feet, chains, acres, etc.

Also, did you know that that the metric system gives map-makers  
fits?  The reason is that one degree in the earth's latitude or  
longitude at the equator is equal to exactly 60 nautical miles. How  
many kilometers? How about 111.47598 ! This is why aviators still  
prefer to use nautical miles instead of kilometers.

It also appears that metrics do not get along too well in computers  
either. Here is a quote from the book.

The [metric] refusers found an unexpected ally in the American- 
dominated computer industry, whose hardware, such as disks, monitors,  
and printers, was measured in traditional units. Solfware for  
printers and for complex CAD (computer-aided design) application  
also  used inches and fractions of inches, which created unexpected  
problems in metric mode, American architect, for example, who set  
tolerances of one-quarter, one-eights, or one-sixteenth of an inch in  
their work, found the software for technical drawings ideal for their  
requirements, but metric architects complained that the solfware  
insisted on approximating their more precise millimeters to the  
nearest fractional equivalent, and so threw off their calculations.  
Even the computer's basic information code, based on binary  
arithmetic and thus having to be counted in 2s, defies  
decimalization, so that there are 1024 bytes rather than 1000 in each  
kilobyte of information.

Neal

PS: I reside in Shelbyville. Here in Shelbyville,  where the court  
house is at 85 degrees, 12.92 minutes west,  celestial noon is a  
little sooner, occurring at 12: 41 PM.  And yes, Zulu time is one  
hour behind most of the time set in Germany, but we can all live with  
Zulu time and be happy.

On Jan 44, 1120092007, at 11:04 AM, Marta Edie wrote:
Neal, now you bring up a whole new dimension into this discourse.  
Where actually do you reside? In a different time zone altogether, or  
do you live by Zulu time?

They also have given up the word "Greenwich Mean Time."
It had a familiar ring to it. As a child in the fourth grade, we  
learned it was one hour behind our "German time", I used to marvel  
why we were so privileged.

And did you all realize we had one extra second to breathe this New  
Year's Eve? I did it with a "sigh" .

This "time" business is something to lose your mind over. I have been  
trying to have the churches change the wording of the Apostles' Creed  
to read "time eternal" at the end, not " everlasting" which suggests  
that we will after death be in a prolonged "Time" frame,which we will  
be not. Eternity just is outside time, so ...........I for myself  
cannot visualize an everlasting banquet ( you will get filled up)   
and everlasting happiness or anything that has the "time" element in  
it. Have you ever envisioned an everlasting kiss?

With this globalization of everything we are really in a pickle - the  
New Year having come at different times to people. So the moment here  
is not the moment there , although it is the same instant when I make  
the telephone call. Now when our technology invents a phone we can  
call into eternity with,  maybe even give God a call, ------- well.

Yes, I am making fun, but then I am not either. Just consider it all  
in a moment of reflection from a philosophical or even theological  
standpoint.

As to the feet and pounds issue you raise -- you do have a point. My  
feet have already a diminished existence and don't carry me farther  
than from the car to the store and that with leaning on the shopping  
cart, and the pound issue has become a looming over head issue, since  
the loss of the feet has made the pounds ever more dominant, and  
perhaps i should be glad, because our silly pound is just a bit less  
than the "real" pound of 500 gramm---- you know what I mean, my scale  
is fooling me.

But seriously, how this nation can be so backward and not have  
adopted the 100 scale, - who wants it to start freezing at 32  
degrees? = A rug at 3x4 feet? I to this day divide everything by  
three to get at least close to a meter, so I can function when I buy  
curtains or rugs.

But the silliest thing now is the packaging - giving the grams after  
the ounces, so everybody  thinks this gram and kilogram business is  
an insurmountable hurdle. Why they cannot package in kilograms and  
grams and have the pound at 500 gram is a puzzle to me.( they then  
could give the ounces afterwards, and then the ounces would fall into  
the silly category.)

So I have decided that I shall spend the little life that is left in  
me to take on the whole United States and urge everybody to go on the  
barricades and then take a march unto Washington to demand the change  
for sanity's sake and lift this nation up to the level of the whole  
Western world and not keep stuck in the mediaeval confines  where  
people measured with their feet walking across the fields - and  
hopefully you had a large size!

And I challenge every person in this technological group to resist to  
measure the size of the picture screen in inches , but in centimeters  
------- and let us see how far we the people of "advanced"  
technologies have come in this goal of lifting up our beloved country  
from the dungeon into the light!

And now my energies are exhausted!
Marta


On Jan 4, 2009, at 09:49 am, Neal Hammon wrote:
Marta:


Don't worry too much about seeing 8am and 8pm on your computer  
display. In reality, this is not the real celestial time anyhow.  
Aviators use Zulu time, (same as Greenwich time) which is perhaps the  
best way to go.

For all you people in Louisville,  perhaps you should know that your  
court house is at longitude  85 degrees and 45.58 minutes west,  so  
celestial noon will not occur until  12:43  in the afternoon when we  
are on standard time. When on daylight savings time, celestial noon  
comes at 1:43, meaning that then we are nearly two hours off off  
nature's cycle. Most people in the world are smarter, and try to  
regulate their time so that they live within a half hour of natural  
or celestrial time.

Incidentally, I can understand wanting to get rid of pounds and  
ounces, but if you got rid of your feet, how would you all walk around?

Neal



On Jan 43, 1120092007, at 8:21 PM, Marta Edie wrote:
In all my computers except in my MBp can I display the time in my  
calendar in the 24 hour mode. I have not succeeded in doing this in  
this leopard loaded computer.I am sure there is a way, but where is it?

The am pm display just seems  so old fashioned, I would like to get  
rid of it as i would of pound and ounces and miles and yards and  
feet. And every time I look at my calendar in the week display mode,  
it bothers me to read noon and 8am etc and then again 8 pm .

Marta



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