I know, i am just in the kidding mood. I DO the Starbucks thing. But I
never meet anybody of the Macgroup whenever i am up there. And do you
all realize that none of those geniuses up there belong to our group?
They might learn something, I have suggested that. In fact, I always
try to have them sign up. Maybe my next move will be that I do the
signing up for them.
Marta
On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:57 am, Stuart Ungar wrote:
Yes, Marta, coffee at the Apple store would be a nice touch. I
suspect they don't because coffee and electronics don't always mix
well. There is always Starbucks right around the corner that I see
some folks sneak in...
Sent from my iPod
On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Marta Edie <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, why I asked is that sometimes you can do 'delete' ( we are
talking from the trash box) and then you can do 'delete forever'.
So I always think that just deleting does not mean 'Forever'.
And the iPhone is another matter. There my delete and trash boxes
abound ---but I will let the Apple geniuses ( if there are any
anymore at all) ponder those confusions. I did pay them for the one
on one meetings. While they do supply me with a chair for my height
and all the other conveniences, they still haven't managed to also
bring me my cup of coffee, necessary for my brain to absorb
anything worthwhile.
Marta
On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:22 am, Dan Crutcher wrote:
Marta,
As you're probably aware, when you delete mail from your Inbox, it
goes into Mail's Trash folder and stays there for as long as you
have it set to do so in your Mail preferences. (In Mail's
preferences, under Accounts/Mailbox Behaviors, you can set a
couple of options for your Trash folder, including how long it
waits to actually delete the mail in the Trash folder. I have mine
set to one day, but many people set that to a week or longer, just
to give them a longer time to retrieve a mistakenly deleted
email). The actual folder that contains those "deleted-but-not-
really" emails can be found at ....username/Library/Mail/Mailboxes/
Deleted Messages.mbox/Messages.
You can also manually delete them from the Trash folder at any
time by selecting them and clicking on the "Delete" icon.
When they're deleted from the Trash folder, they're really deleted
— which is to say their directory marker is wiped out so that the
system can overwrite the space on the disk that those file occupy.
The actually data that comprises the email file may well still
exist for a while and could be recovered with a special file
recovery program, but for all intents and purposes, once it's
deleted from Mail's Trash folder, it's gone just like any other
file in the main system's trash can once it's "emptied."
Dan
I have my mail set to go into trash when I delete it . ( my
computer isn't always faithful and stuff ends up in other delete
folders), but that is a topic for another time.
What happens, though, when i delete items from the trash? Where
do they go? They just don't disintegrate, do they? I guess for
that to happen i would have to click 'cut' or 'delete forever' it
it were available.
But then, where do all these thousands of messages I have deleted
from the trash in the course of time, where do they live on?
Marta
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