I agree with Lee that the need for Quicken etc. is diminished somewhat. Many financial websites are much better. Most of us are writing fewer checks. However, checks are being replaced with credit and debit card transactions, and downloading then is critical if the goal is to track expenditures, prepare budgets and plan for the future (of course some credit card companies now provide annual expense category summaries for their customers). I prefer to have one place to pull everything together and look at the whole picture, and that's why I kept using Quicken.
Intiut's CEO, Bill Campbell sat on Apple's board of directors for years (not sure if he is still there). Why he didn't know and communicate that Rosetta was going away is pure mis-management. Of course, other companies have failed in these transitions as well. I used Quark Xpress for years, but when they failed to make the move to OSX in a timely manner, I switched to Adobe's Suite. Had they looked ahead just a bit, they never would have lost a customer. Intuit is now in the same boat. Later this month when their customers move to Lion and can't open their Quicken files, the backlash will be immediate. I can now accomplish almost everything I did on Quicken in iBank. It is Lion compatible, very quick and nimble and meets my needs. It is the only other major competitor on shelves in the AppleStore, and is getting great reviews online. I don't think I'll ever go back to Quicken. I purchased every Quicken upgrade offered every single year. Over 15 years, that's $750+ and would have continued to do so for decades more, it is that critical an app for me. Talk about Too Big to Fail... they were too big and dense to even realize they could fail. Suggesting I switch to Windows is the final, most despicable insult of all. If they knew anything about their customers, they would have realized that suggestion would never fly. And yes, Marta, I am still here lurking around from time to time. Glad to see you are just as engaged in all things Mac as ever! On Jul 7, 2011, at 3:03 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Send MacGroup mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of MacGroup digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: MacGroup Digest, Vol 27, Issue 7 (Bill Rising) > 2. test email to mac grp from mac address (derbywiz) > 3. Re: MacGroup Digest, Vol 27, Issue 7 (Nora Probasco) > 4. Re: MacGroup Digest, Vol 27, Issue 7 (Lee Larson) > > From: Bill Rising <[email protected]> > Date: July 7, 2011 12:59:28 PM EDT > To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MacGroup] MacGroup Digest, Vol 27, Issue 7 > Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers > <[email protected]> > > > On Jul 6, 2011, at 21:01 , Andy Arnold wrote: > >> Here was my response to Intuit after receiving their email today: >> >> I've used Quicken for Mac since 1996. I'm letting you know how disappointed >> I am that I am switching to iBank. You have consistently failed to deliver a >> quality product for at least 4 years (really you should have had feature >> parity with Quicken for Windows years before). Not having a timely solution >> for Lion is the final straw. There are now plenty of feature-rich >> alternatives. Switching was painful, I really didn't want to do it, but felt >> like I had no worthy option from Intuit. Mint.com with no transaction >> history? Are you kidding? Switch to Quicken for Windows? I'd rather use >> paper and pencil. Quicken Essentials? Do you even read your own press >> coverage? I was a Quicken Inner Circle participant, so am very, very >> disappointed... >> > > Here is a long article/rant about Intuit, Quicken and alternatives: > > http://scottworldblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/23/why-does-intuit-hate-mac-users-and-why-doesnt-apple-save-us/ > > As for people thinking of taking Intuit's lame advice to switch to the > Windows version, there are plenty of posts which say that the Windows version > cannot read the Mac version's data properly. > > Since I have Parallels on my computer, I'm tempted to install Snow Leopard as > a virtual machine and keep using my Quicken 2003 until there is something > which both can be used easily and can import old data properly. Shoot, even > if Intuit works out a hacked up solution with Apple for running Quicken 2007, > it would seem weird to update to a very old version of Quicken. > > Sheesh, > > Bill > > > From: derbywiz <[email protected]> > Date: July 7, 2011 2:11:56 PM EDT > To: Louisville Computer Society <[email protected]> > Subject: [MacGroup] test email to mac grp from mac address > Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers > <[email protected]> > > > trying to see why my emails keep getting bounced. > sorry to bother you. > > > > From: Nora Probasco <[email protected]> > Date: July 7, 2011 2:24:47 PM EDT > To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MacGroup] MacGroup Digest, Vol 27, Issue 7 > Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers > <[email protected]> > > > I think it is pure arrogance telling someone to switch to the Windows > version. What a joke. I am using Quicken 2006 and as long as it works well I > will keep it. However, it probably won't run on Lion I would think. I plan to > delay going to Lion until I hear feedback that all the bugs have been fixed. > > Nora > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Bill Rising <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jul 6, 2011, at 21:01 , Andy Arnold wrote: > > > Here was my response to Intuit after receiving their email today: > > > > I've used Quicken for Mac since 1996. I'm letting you know how disappointed > > I am that I am switching to iBank. You have consistently failed to deliver > > a quality product for at least 4 years (really you should have had feature > > parity with Quicken for Windows years before). Not having a timely solution > > for Lion is the final straw. There are now plenty of feature-rich > > alternatives. Switching was painful, I really didn't want to do it, but > > felt like I had no worthy option from Intuit. Mint.com with no transaction > > history? Are you kidding? Switch to Quicken for Windows? I'd rather use > > paper and pencil. Quicken Essentials? Do you even read your own press > > coverage? I was a Quicken Inner Circle participant, so am very, very > > disappointed... > > > > Here is a long article/rant about Intuit, Quicken and alternatives: > > http://scottworldblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/23/why-does-intuit-hate-mac-users-and-why-doesnt-apple-save-us/ > > As for people thinking of taking Intuit's lame advice to switch to the > Windows version, there are plenty of posts which say that the Windows version > cannot read the Mac version's data properly. > > Since I have Parallels on my computer, I'm tempted to install Snow Leopard as > a virtual machine and keep using my Quicken 2003 until there is something > which both can be used easily and can import old data properly. Shoot, even > if Intuit works out a hacked up solution with Apple for running Quicken 2007, > it would seem weird to update to a very old version of Quicken. > > Sheesh, > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > MacGroup mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup > > > > > > From: Lee Larson <[email protected]> > Date: July 7, 2011 3:01:05 PM EDT > To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MacGroup] MacGroup Digest, Vol 27, Issue 7 > Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers > <[email protected]> > > > On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Nora Probasco wrote: > >> I think it is pure arrogance telling someone to switch to the Windows >> version. What a joke. I am using Quicken 2006 and as long as it works well I >> will keep it. However, it probably won't run on Lion I would think. I plan >> to delay going to Lion until I hear feedback that all the bugs have been >> fixed. > > It isn't bugs that are the problem. Apple announced in 2005 that they were > switching over to Intel processors from the PowerPC processors. For the > transition, they installed a program called Rosetta that emulates PowerPC > processors on machines with Intel processors. They also said that Rosetta > would be going away in a future operating system. Rosetta is gone in Lion. > > With six years warning, Intuit failed to produce a full-featured Intel > version of Quicken for the Mac. With this history, I wouldn't hold my breath > waiting for a fix. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacGroup mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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