Have you used DiskWarrior to rebuild the directory?  If you hear no noise but 
have the slowness I have seen DiskWarrior correct dozens of machines with these 
symptoms.  DiskWarrior didn't help with my situation for the drive was bad, so 
if you should try this and still have the problem then it is most likely a bad 
drive.

John


On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Nora Probasco wrote:

> It is strange because I have been getting the "beach ball" a lot lately and 
> it has been staying on for long times. 
> 
> Nora
> 
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:04 PM, John Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
> This story may have NO relevance to what happened to my hard drive but it is 
> sure strange.  
> 
> I took a MacMini Server and converted to a regular Mac, took to my office 
> along with an ethernet switch, superdrive, firewire hub, Airport Extreme AND 
> a G-Technologies 3TB TimeMachine backup drive.  When I first took it all was 
> well, the machine is just over a year old, it's one of the newer Mini's with 
> the plastic like cover over the bottom that twist off so access to the inside 
> is much easier then the old Mini's.
> 
> The machine ran day and night but when going on vacation I felt I may as well 
> shut everything down.  When I returned it would not boot, tried everything 
> and finally had to schedule a Genius bar appointment.  Sure enough, for some 
> reason while it was shut off the primary hard drive had gone bad, so Apple 
> installed a new one.  
> 
> I brought it back and it would hardly run, I mean it took close to an hour to 
> boot, then I couldn't do a thing with it.  Scheduled another Genius 
> appointment and they once again erased the hard drive and installed Mountain 
> Lion again.  Got it to the office and the same thing continued to happen, but 
> it didn't at the Apple store.  
> 
> What the heck?  At the remote chance the G-Technology backup drive was 
> interfering (I had the Mini sitting right on top of the backup drive so with 
> the plastic bottom the metal on the firewire drive was really just 
> millimeters from the working of the Mini.  As soon as I moved the 
> G-Technologies drive to a shelf below the Mini everything began working 
> perfectly.  Unreal, how is this possible?  How could the backup have 
> destroyed the original disk and why was it making the machine so slow?  It 
> continued to take about an hour to boot, took Safari about 30 min. to load, 
> iTunes would never load.  As soon as I separated the two everything was fine.
> 
> Maybe a fluke, but I wanted to pass along just in case anyone was doing as I 
> was with a Mini.  
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Nov 1, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Brian ONeal wrote:
> 
>> "Over the years, I have found Hitachi & Samsung spinning hard drives to have 
>> the highest defect rate..."
>> 
>> I agree with the above statement 100%. I am constantly replacing these two 
>> brands. 
>> 
>> Brian O'Neal
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:57 PM, Jeff @ SLYN Systems wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Promise I don't mean to come across as snooty nor as a Know-It-All but a 
>> dead hard drive will many times have a louder (than normal) clicking sound.  
>> Just wanted to ad this to the conversation.
>> The sad part is that newer hard drives seem to last a much shorter time than 
>> a decade ago but part of that might be they are also lesser expensive in 
>> price.  A client bought a mass merchandiser (such as Best Buy or WalMart) 
>> Lenovo unit in August and literally was here at my place in early October 
>> with a dead (clicking) hard drive on his hands.  We could have recovered 
>> data but it was going to require parts being replaced (expensive) and he 
>> gave up the 2 months of data on it to have it replaced by Lenovo's warranty.
>> Over the years, I have found Hitachi & Samsung spinning hard drives to have 
>> the highest defect rate but this one was a Seagate.  Guess you never know.
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Jeff Slyn, Owner
>> SLYN Systems & Peripherals
>> (502) 426-5469
>> http://www.SLYNsystems.com [email protected] Twitter: @SLYNsystems
>> serving Kentuckiana clients 7 days a week since 1985!
>> 
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: Brian ONeal <[email protected]>
>> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Hard Drive Crash
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:55:14 -0400
>> 
>> Highly unlikely, but the power cable to the drive may be loose inside. No 
>> noise is typically a dead drive.
>> 
>> Brian O'Neal
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Nora Probasco wrote:
>> 
>> I think my fairly new 750g hard drive has crashed. When I hit the on button 
>> nothing happens but I see the light that shows me it is on. There is no 
>> initial sound to let me know it is starting up and it is just silent. 
>> Anything else it could be?
>> 
>> Nora
>> 
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