Well said Ed, you sound like one of the leaders of this country.

On hold with Apple now, trying to find who I can talk to about supporting Tim, 
they don’t know if they should send me to Legal or Media, hey, I’ll talk to 
both of them..


John



> On Feb 17, 2016, at 7:18 PM, Ed Wiser <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> John I am sure it is ok for anyone to have a Black door into your iPhone or 
> Mac encryption. Once this is allowed then anyone will want to have access to 
> encrypted devices. It comes down to security how secure do you want your 
> files to be am sure it would be OK to have lax security by having a back door 
> so someone could access your bank card info on your phone. Once the back door 
> is there it gives hackers another vector into your iPhone or Mac. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 5:39 PM, John Robinson <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> Lee,
>> 
>> If this is so then why all the fuss?
>> 
>> If Apple gives the Feds the key to the back door and everything is encrypted 
>> then the moral Police still won’t have anything…so they must want not only 
>> the way in BUT the key to the encryption as well, otherwise Tim could hand 
>> over the back door and all his followers info. would still be safe.
>> 
>> Where am I going wrong?
>> 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Lee Larson <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 02/17/2016 03:12 PM, John Robinson wrote:
>>>> This is posted on the Apple Website, if your concerned about your personal 
>>>> freedoms it sure would be a good idea to let your voice be heard….
>>> 
>>> It seems to that if Apple has done their encryption properly and the owners 
>>> used a decent password, then there's probably no way to break into the 
>>> phone. Strong encryption is -- well -- really strong. Some people who work 
>>> in this area talk about "heat death strong" which means randomly trying 
>>> passwords is unlikely to succeed before the heat death of the universe.
>>> 
>>> 
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