Fantastic Lee, thanks SO much….

Like many in this group you are so helpful…

John



> On May 25, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Lee Larson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On May 25, 2018, at 11:41 AM, John Robinson <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> Did you not tell us that you had TWO router’s, one behind another? 
> 
> Over the years I’ve played with many different router setups. Here are the 
> last three I’ve tried.
> 
> For quite a while, my setup was to plug the cable modem into my Linux server 
> which served as the router and firewall. The Linux machine had two extra 
> Ethernet outputs. One of them went to the house Ethernet network and the 
> other went to an Apple AirPort Extreme which provided the WiFi.
> 
> This made two networks within the house and the Linux machine was the gateway 
> between the two. It worked quite well and 
> was very flexible flexible because the networking software under Linux is 
> almost ridiculously configurable. It is also often ridiculously complicated 
> and I lost a lot of hair while setting it up.
> 
> I don’t recommend this to anyone, unless you really want to get down and 
> dirty with iptables.
> 
> Mighty Thor smote my Linux machine, giving me the opportunity to try another 
> approach.
> 
> 
> The cable company had just pulled fiber through my neighborhood and offered a 
> free Arris modem/router/WiFi combo box, if we moved ourselves up to the next 
> service tier. I got the box and hooked the cable to it. I plugged it into a 
> three-port managed switch. One port on the switch went to the Ethernet in the 
> house and another went into the AirPort.
> 
> I spent several evenings configuring the firewall and port mappings on the 
> Arris. I used the AirPort for WiFi and turned off the radio in the Arris box. 
>  It wasn’t as flexible or secure as the former Linux setup, but it wasn’t too 
> bad. 
> 
> Then, one day, for some reason I no longer remember, the power was cut to the 
> Arris box for a few minutes. When it came back up, the settings had reverted 
> to as they were when I got the thing. It turned out this is a feature, not a 
> bug. The cable company put custom firmware into the machine that made it 
> revert to their favorite settings whenever power was lost. I’m sure this 
> saved them a lot of tech support time. Just tell the caller to pull the plug, 
> count to ten, and plug it back in again. Now they know the state of all the 
> settings.
> 
> I asked if this “feature” could be disabled. They said “no.” I began 
> wondering what other “features” they’d built into the firmware. (Ever thought 
> of back doors?) I immediately went out and bought a Motorola SurfBoard modem 
> and started using it with the AirPort Extreme as my connection.
> 
> The AirPort Extreme is a nice rock solid simple router that’s great for most 
> users. It’s a shame Apple has decided to kill the product. It’s also a shame 
> they didn’t open it up very much for more advanced configuration. I also 
> wanted the dual network I’d had before for security.
> 
> 
> A while back I replaced the Airport with a Netgear Nighthawk router. One 
> reason why I chose the Nighthawk was because it has the capability of 
> supporting two networks internally. You don’t need two routers to do this any 
> more. I have my main house network set to a 192.168.0.n range of addresses 
> and another network set to 10.0.0.n. The second network contains all the IoT 
> devices such as the Rokus and the Nest thermostat. It’s also the guest 
> network to which I steer visitors. Devices on the 10.0.0.n network can’t see 
> anything on the 192.168.0.n network. This helps secure our personal machines 
> and file servers.
> 
> 
> There are some really nice home routers coming to market right now and I’m 
> sure my gadget lust will kick in sooner or later. 
> 
> The one that seems really impressive for the price is the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter 
> X. It’s only $50 on Amazon and provides most of the Linux configuration 
> options in a GUI interface.
> 
> There are a bunch of mesh-capable WiFi systems, led by Eero. These are the 
> way to go for anyone with a big house or a small one with lots of brick. 
> They’re pretty expensive right now, but competition will no doubt quickly 
> bring the price down.
> 
> L^2
> 
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