yep my emails to the group or from the group often get lost in the ether. As Lee says it happens every couple of months.
Aargh! > On May 31, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Lee Larson <[email protected]> wrote: > > On May 31, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Bill Rising <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ever since I told Beth that I used iCloud for most all of my email, and that >> it worked pretty well, I stopped getting any email from the usergroup. > > I often get reports of weird things happening with mail to this group, and > I’m sure this group is not unique in that regard. When I can, I check the > problem emails pretty closely and I can rarely find anything wrong with them. > (Ask Harry about this! His email to this group seems to go crazy every couple > of months for no reason we can discover.) > >> Wouldn't you know, Apple's mail servers had suddenly decided that anything >> coming from the group was spam, so I just found a ton of usergroup emails >> today when looking to see if a different missing email had ended up in the >> Junk folder. >> So... the fact that iCloud's mail server sometimes has trouble deciding what >> is Junk and what is not Junk is something which has been around since I've >> used iCloud. The mysterious part is that emails from what should be safe >> sources (because I've gotten many and never marked them as Junk) suddenly >> and unpredictably become classified with Junk. I suppose this is common to >> mail servers, as it sometimes happens at work, too. It just seems waaaay >> more common with iCloud. > > Modern junk mail filters for the major mail sites use mysterious algorithms > to grab unwanted mail. Until a few years ago the most advanced techniques > used Bayesian filtering. I’ve read that Google and likely Apple are using AI > algorithms and maybe even deep learning to catch spam. Probably even the > people who wrote the algorithms don’t really understand the spam/no-spam > triggers their machines have taught themselves. > >> The worst part is that I have a sneaking suspicion that there are messages >> which never even make it to the Junk folder. I cannot possibly have evidence >> for this, just as I could not ever have evidence that there is an invisible, >> massless, floating ghost in my garage, but I still am suspicious. (Well, not >> of the ghost.) >> >> Dunno if others have a strategy for making the Junk filtering less >> capricious.... > > There are several suggestions for the problem of spam. Here are two I think > might work: > > (1) The mail programs should flag email without a valid digital signature. > People are against this on privacy grounds. It would also require people to > get registered public keys. (I digitally sign all my email.) > > (2) Put a charge of 0.01 cent on every email sent. This is small enough not > to discourage most email, but is enough to mean real money for the spammers > who send millions of emails. The criticism of this is that it’s technically > difficult. Think of it as an almost-free postage stamp. The money could be > used to enhance the Web’s infrastructure. > > Ultimately, I think the spam problem could be the death of email. Spamming on > USENET essentially killed it about ten years ago. > > L^2 > > PS/ I emptied my mail Junk folder late yesterday afternoon and it already > shows 407 emails flagged as junk across the five accounts I’m using. Errr… > three more as I was writing this sentence. > > ---- > Lee Larson > [email protected] > > I don't believe in astrology; I'm a Sagittarius and we're skeptical. — > Arthur C. Clarke > Profiles of the Future, 1982 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacGroup mailing list > Posting address: [email protected] > Archive: > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_macgroup-40erdos.math.louisville.edu_&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=sNoCwbTO5-B1Lj5uVbRY3y-JdTTbTPXFYBCe85O72Rg&s=QCpUYbr_JBmU2d8ioPPSUQlzwB0VCjX2aqFCnOmaqEg&e=> > Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/> _______________________________________________ MacGroup mailing list Posting address: [email protected] Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/> Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/>
