Good to know!

Let us know if you run into any other issues with 17.1.  I'm still
"stuck" on 16.1 for day-to-day use at RealJob (I tend not to upgrade
in the middle of a project unless it's required), and the Docker
images are back at 15.1 since there's not really any need to run
anything newer AFAIK.

On 4/30/2018 5:49 PM, mugginsac wrote:
> Charles,
> 
> I posted the question on the Altera Forum and got the response that 
> talkback is no longer required in 17.1.
> 
> Alan
> 
> On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 8:38:34 AM UTC-7, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
>>
>> I don't know.  Altera has generally required talkback to be enabled 
>> when using the free version of the tools and targeting any of the 
>> "complex" FPGA families (SoC+FPGA or the parts with high-speed 
>> transceivers) but they may have changed things with 17.1. 
>>
>> I suspect you'll still need to enable talkback, but it may require a 
>> different method.  I haven't worked with 17.1 yet even on my main 
>> Windows development system, much less in a Docker VM. 
>>
>> NOTE: IIRC, when I was trying to get 15.1 working as a Docker image, 
>> the "official" way to enable talkback required running a GUI and 
>> clicking some buttons which was pretty hard to do from within the 
>> Docker build.  I tracked down what was happening behind the scenes, 
>> and managed to get the tb2_install program to do what I needed without 
>> requiring user input.  You will likely have to figure this out 
>> yourself if you're wanting to make a Docker image, or just run the 
>> Quartus GUI and enable talkback if you're working with a "regular" system. 
>>
>> On 4/30/2018 10:16 AM, mugginsac wrote: 
>>> I discovered that tb2_install is included in Quartus 15.1 but not in 
>> 17.1. 
>>> Does that mean that tb2_install is no longer required with the new 
>> version 
>>> of Quartus? 
>>>
>>> Thanks, 
>>> Alan 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 10:59:07 AM UTC-7, DeWayne Young wrote: 
>>>>
>>>> Starting the Quartus shell is the first problem from the GitHub readme 
>> file 
>>>> altera/15.1/embedded/embedded_command_shell.sh   
>>>> this does not exist 
>>>>
>>>> I installed the Quartus Lite version which installs into alter_lite and 
>>>> not altera 
>>>> There are no embedded directories at all 
>>>>
>>>> attached it the make all output results. 
>>>>
>>>> I have a feeling that perhaps something is missing from the Quartus 
>>>> Install of 15.1 and the updates upgrade. 
>>>>
>>>> But OMG this is allot of FUN 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Charles Steinkuehler 
>> [email protected] <javascript:> 
>>
> 


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