There seemed to be something weird going on when using multiple build targets 
or the sdk doesnt like 5.13 for some reason. I switched to 5.12.4 and not it's 
working somewhat. I'm trying to modify machineface for my robot application and 
you still can't see them on creator but in think its a feature at this point. 
It builds and works fine though.

No I haven't tried it. I also run them on the same machine but I'm working on 
just the ui at this point.

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