Quoting "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > I'm real new to networking, so please take it easy on me if this seems > obvious to most of you. I had three macs networked with localtalk at > one time. I wanted to go to ethernet so I bought a switch, 8 port ... The info appended way down below was provided by a fellow named Randy Singer, on the Mac-L list some time back. That list, and about a dozen others, can be located here http://www.listmoms.net/lists/ They've begun to maintain archives, starting in Spring of this year which are accessible from the same URL. It's the "best" list that I'm currently aware of -- altho, it's not per se a network list. Also, the normal axiom is to "first describe your problem in great detail, leaving NOTHING out" so we may better estimate the nature of your problem. My "solution": At least with OS 9, the Apple on-line help provides good info on setting up basic networking. The simplest example would be to connect two (fairly) modern Macs using an Ethernet cross-over cable (the ends of which are clearly wired "differently", whereas normal patch cables look "the same" at each end), and then, on both machines, o in the AppleTalk Control Panel (CP), choose Ethernet o in the File Sharing CP, use the same owner name (both machines) AND use nothing as a password (simplifies things for a starter) AND turn File Sharing ON (this step can be done via the Control Strip) AND give each machine an easy to remember name o on one machine, use Network Browser to connect, via AppleTalk, as a "registered user" using the same owner name as above AND you should find, under AppleTalk, that the "machine name" of the other computer should show up. Clicking on this, you ought to find the volume names of one or more partitions of the "other computer". You can then copy files to/from your base machine to the "other computer". [Does this procedure allow all computers to share printers as well? Generally, NO! That's a different subject entirely.] You can make it rather more complicated than this -- but if you're in a secure home environment where you trust any other users -- there's probably no reason to make things any more than complex than this description. If you've set things up "symmetrically", you should be able to use either machine to access the other machine and its files. Notes: really modern machines (of which I have none) can apparently "adapt" to using a simple patch cable to connect two machines and don't require the special cross-over cable. When you progress beyond TWO Macs to three or more computers, devices, cable modems, whatever -- you'll need something like a "hub". It this case, the hub provides the cross-over function, and all devices are connected to the hub using regular patch cables. HTH, Scott Scott T. Spencer aka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Menlo Park, CA P.S. Modern security considerations suggest that you should leave File Sharing OFF - unless you're actually moving files OR you're protected by something like "a firewall" - which is a more advanced topic than I can handle. *** here's Randy's contribution, which is rather more detailed *** From ???@??? Tue Jun 26 00:15:20 2001 Subject: Re: Primer on Ethernet? From: "Randy B. Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:29:27 -0700 Reply-To: Macintosh News and Information <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >I just getting into networking and while I can often get a few Macs >to communicate I have no idea how to trouble shoot it when they >don't. Is there a simple guide to networking (I don't need to know >the subject backward, just enough to keep 2 or 3 computers talking!)? There are some excellent guides to networking on the Web!: Three Macs and a Printer: A Guide to Macintosh Networking (These two sites both have the same name, yet seem to be done by different folks and are not related! Both are useful.) http://www.threemacs.com/network/ http://bowiehs.elpaso.k12.tx.us/network/ Building Your Own Low-Cost Ethernet By Peter Sichel http://www.sustworks.com/site/ipr_guide/ethernet_basics.htm This is a good basic tutorial that especially does a nice job of explaining the difference between direct wiring with a cross-over cable and using a hub when networking only two computers, or a computer and a printer, together via Ethernet. Networking 102-The basics of networking all in one article! By Rick VanDerveer http://www.MacKiDo.com/Hardware/Networking102.html This does an excellent job of defining terms. See Chapter 4 of this Web site for Ethernet information. Building an Ethernet Network By Paul Shields http://www.applelinks.com/business_mac/ethernet.shtml This site will tell you exactly how to set up your software for networking. Setting Up Macintoshes for Peer-to-Peer Networking By John Springer http://linux1.tlc.north.denver.k12.co.us/~gmoreno/wiring/nopeer.html Setting Up An Ethernet Network This tutorial is not particularly Mac-friendly, but it has some good information and useful pictures. http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles%2Farch ive%2Fupgrading%2F4ug2698%2F4ug2698%2Easp _______________________________________________ Randy B. Singer, Attorney at Law * Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) * Webmaster of: The Law Office Software List for the Macintosh Computer http://www.macattorney.com/ * Moderator of: The MacAttorney Computer User Group _______________________________________________ -- Scott T. 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