>Date: Sun,  1 Dec 2002 07:40:56 -0600
>From: Jeff Wechter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 20:18:59 -0800, Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Aside from the possibility that both of my crossover cables are bad, is there 
>anything else that might be causing the problem?
>
>Try a hub. Sometimes two Macs just don't talk to each other as easily as we would 
>like.

Actually, I have a hub but I can't find the power supply! The hub is an Intel 
InBusiness 5-port hub. It requires 7.5V, but it doesn't say if it requires AC or DC, 
and, if DC, what polarity. Does anyone know, and can I damage the hub if I get it 
wrong?

>My hunch is that they can't autonegotiate a connection rate. I've read recipes for 
>start up sequences, but using any old hub is probably more time effective.

If I can get the thing working with a hub, I'll know that the problem is not at the 
computer end. And, if I understand correctly, I can then test each apparent crossover 
cable by connecting it between a computer and the "Out to Hub" port on the hub. True?

 - Aaron

My original post:

>Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 20:18:59 -0800
>From: Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>I'm trying to connect two Macs:
>
>* An 8500/180 running OS 8.6
>
>* A PowerTowerPro with a Sonnet G3/450 running OS 9.1. It also has a Kingston 10/100 
>card in addition to the built-in ethernet connections.
>
>I can get AppleTalk on both computers to switch to Ethernet, and I've turned on file 
>sharing on both and set up at least one volume on each to be shared. But I can't get 
>AppleShare on either computer to see anything on the other in the 'select a file 
>server' window of the chooser.
>
>I've tried two different cables that appear to be crossover cables, since they're the 
>only two RJ-45-ended cables I have that don't have identical wiring at both ends. 
>I've tried them with the RJ-45 connectors and with the AAUI connectors (with Asante 
>FriendlyNet transceivers), as well as with the 10/100 card on the PTP. I tried before 
>and after installing Kingston drivers on the PTP. The drivers are:
>
>Kingston PCI Fast Ethernet v. 3.3
>Kingston PCI Fast Ethernet (AB) v. 3.3
>
>I tried running Kingston EtheRx PCI Diagnostics (also v. 3.3), and it caused my 
>computer to crash. (I don't remember the details of the crash.)
>
>By the way, the yellow  lights on the transceivers turn on when they're plugged in, 
>but not the green ones. And none of the lights on the 10/100 card turn on.
>
>Aside from the possibility that both of my crossover cables are bad, is there 
>anything else that might be causing the problem?
>
> - Aaron
> - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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