Hello Larry,

Thank you very much for all the good advice!  I'll try
to give this a shot tonight and will let you know how
things work out.  I like the bit about apple care as
the eMac is still under this program - and I only have
one year to go and haven't needed it yet.

I was wondering if it would be worth the expense to
upgrade the eMac to Tiger.  My biggest concern is that
I might lose  OS 9.2.2 (as in I don't know if the
Tiger install would wipe out that OS in assition to
the OSX upgrade) and I need that for my Oracle
database (yeah I must be the only person the planet
running Oracle on a Mac at this point).

Anyrate, thanks again!

Barry

--- Larry Dieterich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 8:48 AM -0800 1/1/06, Barry Muller wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I have an eMac running 10.2.8 w\ airport extreme
> card
> >and a Pismo running 10.4.3 with an airport card;
> these
> >(used to) connect to an Airport Extreme base that
> is
> >connected to a DSL modem (SBC).  When I first got
> this
> >"system" I managed to muddle through and get
> >everything working OK.
> >
> >About a month ago I tried to synch my Wallstreet to
> >the Pismo using the IRDA port.  That didn't work
> for
> >me, but afterward nothing would connect to the
> >BaseStation.  I managed to get the Pismo back, but
> the
> >eMac only gives the error that it cannot find the
> >PPPOE host.  It does see the base station though.
> >I've tried to set the to machines to the same
> settings
> >in system prefs/network, but the windows in Jaguar
> are
> >slightly different than in Tiger, so I it seems (to
> >me) that I cannot get the settings exactly the same
> >(eventhough I admit that is counter intuitive).
> >
> >Any help is very much appreciated.  Please do not
> >hesitate to break out the finger puppets to explain
> >this to me as networks are a known weak-point in my
> >knowledge of computers.
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Barry
> >
> 
> Nobody else seems to be biting on this problem and I
> feel your pain.
> 
> A detailed explanation about what to do could be
> very time-consuming; 
> more than I can offer at this time.
> 
> If it is still broken, unfortunately, it may be time
> to "read the 
> fantastic manual".
> 
> Unless somebody else has the time to go through
> detailed step-by-step 
> instructions, Apple has very good documentation and
> tools to help you 
> through this procedure. If you have a machine under
> AppleCare, you 
> can call on this issue for free. If you are out of
> AppleCare, they 
> will still help you on the phone for about $50,
> which is much less 
> than you'd pay to have a tech come over and fix it.
> 
> If I were you, I'd find the setup instructions that
> came with the ABS 
> (Airport Base Station), or download them from the
> mothership.
> http://www.apple.com/support/airport/
> the pdf documentation on the right side of that page
> is probably what 
> you are after.
> 
> Probably the simplest, and maybe surest way to get
> your network 
> working is to start from scratch. It may not be a
> quick fix, but what 
> you will learn will be of value.  =In truth, it
> might be the quickest 
> fix as well.
> 
> You may even want to reset the base station to
> defaults. The 
> procedure for this is outlined in the documentation
> referenced above.
> 
> I recommend that you make a new location on both
> machines.
> (Apple Menu>System Preferences>Network>Location>Make
> a New Location)
> 
> The first step is to get one of the computers
> working via wire. I 
> mean with the DSL modem connected directly to the
> computer by the 
> Ethernet cable. So you will make an Ethernet port
> connect via PPPOE.
> 
> After that, I would use the Airport Setup Assistant
> to pass those 
> successful settings to the ABS.
> 
> Then you connect both machines to the ABS via
> wireless.
> 
> I might also recommend that you get both machines on
> the same OS, 
> just for ease of setup and familiarity of the
> interface. This is 
> optional.
> 
> A few things to help you conceptually -
> A PPOE connection requires a password and login.
> These should be "remembered" by the base station.
> The Setup Assistant will transfer settings from a
> computer to the ABS.
> The Airport Admin Utility is a bigger administrative
> tool, and you 
> may not need it at all.
> After the base station is set up and working, all
> the computers 
> connect to the network by the Airport port (network
> tabs) and they 
> get TCP/IP via DHCP.
> Neither of the machines is sharing its Internet
> connection in this setup.
> 
> 
> good luck!
> 
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> 
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