On Oct 2, 2012, at 6:59 PM, LuKreme wrote: >>> >>> >>> What commercial OS products are using GPLv3? >>> >>> GPLv3 was designed specifically to stop companies like Apple and Microsoft >>> from including those tools. >> >> CCC is commercial software. It includes a GPLv3 licensed version of rsync >> 3.0.9, and yet this does not stop them. How does it stop Apple? > > You would need to ask Apple’s lawyers. > > I suspect the issue revolves around patents of which Apple has many and CCC > has none.
That is a disappointing cop out. The last time you went down this road, and I responded, you merely stopped the hand waiving. This is a regression from saying nothing. You said GPLv3 was designed *specifically* to stop companies from including x tools. It is your burden to explain this. Not mine. Not Apple's lawyers. You didn't merely make the claim, you claimed *SPECIFICITY* of purpose. That's not even something Apple's lawyers have done, or even would do. Beyond punting, you then assert Bombich has no IP stake even though their license expressly claimed no CCC source code is to be made available, only rsync original and modified source code is made available upon request. On what basis do you assert Bombich has no IP claims? No version of the GPL requires Apple to divulge or dissolve their patents, unless directly incorporated into GPL code. That's something the BSD license does not require: You can take the code, modify it, and not publish the modifications, unlike the GPL. But that's the same for any version of the GPL. The main difference with v3 is that it closes the hardware lock backdoor. Some companies were using GPL code, modifying it for their purpose and publishing as required, but their hardware prevented the user from being able to modify that same code. Doing so broke the hardware. Hence the GPLv3 says, no you can't use (surreptitious) hardware locks to prevent users from modifying and running GPL code. We can all think of why Apple wouldn't want users to be able to execute modified code on the iPhone, iPad, or AppleTV. Those are fully, totally locked hardware platforms. But to propose this for Mac hardware too should concern any Mac user about what the future of the Macintosh looks like, even five, let alone ten years down the road. It is not just GPL licensed apps that are languishing. OpenSSH is two years old on Lion, over a year old on Mountain Lion. OpenSSL is over 18 months old on both. OpenLDAP is ancient. There are many GPL utilities that are crusty including even bash which is at 3.5 years old. Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ MacOSX-admin mailing list [email protected] http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin
