On Feb 5, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Will Herrmann <wjherrm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Java is no longer installed by default on OS X, but fortunately if a user 
> tries to launch a Java app for the first time, they receive the following 
> message: "To open "Test App", you need a Java SE 6 Runtime. Would you like to 
> install one now?"

This is probably an older java app. As Christorpher Brown mentions there are 
two different java application launchers depending on what jre/java 
version/vendor the application is for.
If it's old application with JavaApplicationStub it will probably try to 
install Java 6. If its a newer openjdk Java 7 application it should probably 
try to install Java 7.
New applications are based on the, now inactive, appbundler project. You can 
google that to find the java net project.
There is a possibly still somewhat active infinitekind bitbucket project 
branched off of that, with some fixes and enhancements that should turn up on 
google too.
My AppConverter application below is supposed to convert or at least get you 
started on a Java 6 to Java 7 application conversion.

On Feb 6, 2014, at 2:31 AM, Christopher Brown <christopherbrow...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> because I don't want to embed a JRE
> (download size *IS* perceived as an issue by some, as is the waste of disk
> space, when there are lots of similar applications) and because there's no
> need for JavaFX.  I'd appreciate any feedback from anyone about how to
> achieve this so I can concentrate on the best approach instead of wasting
> time on dead ends...


Either embedded or non-embedded ire should work with the apple extensions. 
Embedded JRE is mainly to allow the application to be signed and then maybe 
become a valid app store candidate.
It is currently optional but as OS security tightens in the future it may 
become required for all applications to be signed. There are other supposed 
reasons why an embedded JRE might be chosen but I agree the download size is 
not good.

> I've already updated a SWT application using a simple shell script relying
> on /usr/libexec/java_home in an ".app" because it integrates nicely with
> the OS X desktop with none of the Swing "it's how you launch it" issues.
> It deals with the "there's no JRE" issue by detecting the problem in the
> script and displaying a dialog using AppleScript.

Not using one of the native launchers I think means your application will not 
support AppleEvents like open document. If your application doesn't rely on 
these it might be a valid alternative.

Michael Hall

trz nio.2 for OS X http://www195.pair.com/mik3hall/index.html#trz

HalfPipe Java 6/7 shell app http://www195.pair.com/mik3hall/index.html#halfpipe

AppConverter convert Apple jvm to openjdk apps 
http://www195.pair.com/mik3hall/index.html#appconverter




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