On Sep 12, 2011, at 8:22, Arno Hautala <[email protected]> wrote:

> Complex passwords are for protecting against the situation where the
> bank's salted password database is stolen and the attacker starts to
> brute force each hash.

Yes, but the idea of what is. Implied has changed. It's not about making the 
password random as much as it is about making it LONG.

> Though most banks probably just store it plaintext anyway.

I hope we've gotten beyond that.

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