Hi Charles,

Thanks for the information.  I had not heard of "sudden termination" but after 
reading your message, I googled it.  Apparently it was also around in Snow 
Leopard, though I certainly never noticed a running app's icon disappearing 
from the dock until very recently (and I upgraded to Lion recently).

I wonder what the advantage is to having a running app's icon disappear from 
the dock?

By the way, I looked in the Activity Monitor, but I was not sure how to tell 
which applications were subject to sudden termination.  Is there a special flag 
or something?

The work-around of never deleting PDFs does not sound very appealing (I assume 
you were joking).  Perhaps I should assign Adobe Acrobat as the default PDF 
viewer to avoid this problem with Preview.

Thanks again for the help,

Gregg

On Jul 7, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Charles Dyer wrote:

> If you are running Lion or later, it's because Apple thinks that they are 
> smarter than you are. There is a new for Lion feature named 'Sudden 
> Termination', and most Apple apps (including Preview) are rigged for it. 
> Basically, if you have an app which can be Suddenly Terminated (and you can 
> tell which ones by firing up Activity Monitor and having a look) then, if 
> that app has been running for a while (and no, I don't know how long 'a 
> while' is, I haven't experimented) without significant activity (and no, I 
> don't know what Apple considers 'significant activity') then the system will 
> terminate it without asking you. Unfortunately sometimes it terminates the 
> app without notifying all concerned; this means that the icon vanishes from 
> the Dock, or if it's permanently there, the 'app is in use' light will go 
> away. However, some things, such as the Trash, don't get the message.
> 
> Work-around: don't put things into the Trash which are in use from an app 
> which can be Suddenly Terminated. Other work-around: don't use apps which can 
> be Suddenly Terminated.
> 
> On 07 Jul 2012, at 16:35 , "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [V]" 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> A week or so ago, I wrote to ask why I could not empty the trash.  Usually 
>> the culprit is a PDF and usually I can quit the Preview app and then the 
>> trash will empty.  This did not appear to be the case recently, though at 
>> least part of the problem turns out to be that the Preview app was still 
>> running but its icon was not in the Dock, so I did not realize it was still 
>> running (and thus I did not quit it).
>> 
>> So the new question of the day is: Why does the Preview app disappear from 
>> my Dock when it is still running?
>> 
>> I have not investigated much, but if I double-click on a PDF while Preview 
>> is not running, then Preview starts up and its icon shows up in the Dock, 
>> but at some point (I don't know when or why), the icon disappears from the 
>> Dock.
>> 
>> By the way, I discovered that Preview was still running by using the What's 
>> Keeping Me app that someone suggested.  Thanks for that suggestion!
>> 
>> And thanks in advance for any information about my latest question.
>> 
>> Gregg

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