Is there anyway I can define a Mac::Window, and then put a (pane?) Dev::Console:$window within that window? Then I could have my autoscroll and easy stdout to the Dev::Console, but still the control over the look of the window? -- Morbus Iff Here we have MorbusBird - Able to fly across all boundaries, ^ migrate his way unfailingly into every inbox and browser /( )\ across the land, with the freedom to (anywhere he wants to!) /.\ drop his shat... Devil Shat:<http://www.disobey.com/devilshat/> -06--- <\/> ---- <http://www.disobey.com/> --- Bad Ascii, Short Notice ----