On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Sean Farley <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia writes:
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Sean Farley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Rainer Müller writes:
>>> 
>>>> On 2013-02-15 09:10, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia wrote:
>>>>> I'd like to update base trunk such that future versions of clang, 
>>>>> dragonegg, and gcc "just work", so we don't need to wait for newer 
>>>>> versions of base to depend on newer compilers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've taken a first pass at portconfigure.tcl and here is a patch.  
>>>>> Comments?  Concerns?
>>>> 
>>>> Fine with me.
>>>> 
>>>> This change makes sense as the features supported by the gcc and clang
>>>> compilers shipped in ports are almost homogenous at the moment; in the
>>>> past there were differences as not all gcc4* shipped gfortran or gcj.
>>>> However, I don't expect the situation to change in the near future.
>>> 
>>> Clang doesn't provide fortran but all gcc ports do. How is that almost
>>> homogenous?
>> 
>> Did you actually look at the patch?  It doesn't treat clang the same as it 
>> does gcc.  It treats all gcc versions the same as all other gcc versions; it 
>> treats all clang versions the same as all other clang versions; and it 
>> treats all dragonegg versions the same as it treats all other dragonegg 
>> versions...
> 
> To be honest, Jeremy, the patch is a bad hack, at best. It relies on the
> compiler name and does horrible regex matching.

Yes, and how is that any worse than what is being done already?

> What if there's a new
> compiler that comes out? For example, let's say Intel releases a free
> version for the mac or maybe the Open64 compiler gets a complete port to
> the mac? Those would still require an update to base.

Yes is would.  This patch is not designed to address *THAT* issue.  It is 
designed to address gcc49, gcc410, gcc50, dragonegg-3.[456], clang-3.[456], 
etc.  That's all I care about addressing for now.  If you have an idea for 
making this even better in the future, be my guest =)

> What about making this a port group? Or maybe making this a better
> system of object-oriented-ness (as much as would be allowed in Tcl)?

I hate tcl, and it hates me.  If you want to do something like that, please do 
so, but I'm very limited in what *I* can do based on how much time I (don't) 
want to devote to tcl.  I'm just trying to make the situation incrementally 
better than it is now, so I don't need to remember to cherry pick "support 
clang-3.4" into the base 2.2 branch like we did 3.2 and 3.3 into the base 2.1 
branch.

>>> That's a huge difference when building mpi-dependent ports.
>> 
>> Which is not really affected by this…
> 
> Sure, your patch doesn't make it worse but it also does nothing to
> alleviate the burden of having a port with a fortran + mpi
> requirement. This seems like a good opportunity to address these issues.


Be my guest.  I don't use fortran, so so I don't really know about that 
particular issue.  Do you have a ticket filed?  Problems don't get fixed unless 
someone cares about fixing the problem ;)

--Jeremy

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